Banned Bats

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Little Jimmy

In this instance, I'm siding with Esq Ump. It is silly to take so long to put the photos on. Yes we look for the serial number, but having a visual is good. There's no good reason for Easton to not provide ASA with images.

And there's also no good reason for ASA to not do a simple Google search by model number and figure out what the bats look like. Just a few mouse clicks and I found an SCN11BH pic:

[Altor]

Originally Posted by Manny A

And there's also no good reason for ASA to not do a simple Google search by model number and figure out what the bats look like.

Well, there is this little issue called "copyright." I suppose one could make a fair use argument, but I bet lawyers would prefer you get permission to use the pictures.

[IRISHMAFIA]

None of it makes a difference. The bat list AND RULE is based upon the model number and the model number only.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

None of it makes a difference. The bat list AND RULE is based upon the model number and the model number only.

True. But it does help to have a visual training aid so that we can spot potential trouble bats right away.

When it comes to ASA and NFHS games, I don't check every single bat's model number when I do my bat checks. I only do that for NCAA play. Does anyone here do a model number check when you inspect bats? Or do you look for bats that look like those on the ASA cheat sheet?

[Linknblue]

Not talking championship play here, just weekend tourney FP or Rec SP adults. Don't do Regional/Nationals cuz I don't like the politics involved.

Typically in slowpitch I'm looking first for bats I've seen a hundred times before then I'll look for bats that I haven't seen before. Adult rec guys try and sneak in "new" non ASA bats quite often. Then I look for beat up bats. These will get tossed from time to time for cracks and rattles and grips. Then I'll look to see if I remember the banned bat list and there's a bat I think might be on that list from a visual standpoint. If I find a similar one, I'll then check model #, etc. Very few get by me.

Fastpitch, the only bats I've ever pulled were beat up and cracked or bats with rattles........the girls don't try and cheat......

[Crabby_Bob]

Originally Posted by Linknblue

Not talking championship play here, just weekend tourney FP or Rec SP adults. Don't do Regional/Nationals cuz I don't like the politics involved.

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Fastpitch, the only bats I've ever pulled were beat up and cracked or bats with rattles........the girls don't try and cheat......

Not the little girls. On the other hand, the parents...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Crabby_Bob

Not the little girls. On the other hand, the parents...

Absolutely! FP folks routinely beat me up in the early 2's telling me altered bats was purely a SP problem that would never show it's ugly face in FP.

Yeah, right!

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Manny A

True. But it does help to have a visual training aid so that we can spot potential trouble bats right away.

When it comes to ASA and NFHS games, I don't check every single bat's model number when I do my bat checks. I only do that for NCAA play. Does anyone here do a model number check when you inspect bats? Or do you look for bats that look like those on the ASA cheat sheet?

I will check the model number if any of that model is on the non-approved list. I created a credit card-sized cheat sheet, laminated it and kept a couple in my bag.

Wasn't that big a deal.

[Little Jimmy]

I use a cheat sheet. That's why I want one with all the pictures.

[Umpire@1]

Originally Posted by Little Jimmy

I use a cheat sheet. That's why I want one with all the pictures.

I just print multiple copies if the bast list and carry with me at every game. The current list can be printed on one page if you use both sides of the paper. I do check the model numbers at my bat check, and yes it is a pain, and takes a couple minutes, but after 6-8 games you start to remember what on the list and what's not, so it goes quicker. Most of the HS coaches understand and don't complain too much. Until you start throwing bats out. Which usually is for damaged bats. The one that really fires them up is when they rattle, and you take it out.