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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 01:11am
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So, please cite the exact ASA rule on which you (and MTD, Jr, apparently) rely for that statement. Every rule I see in each of these rules sets states the penalty for an IP is a ball on the batter AND a one base award from TOP for all runners.

We bad! I was typing and Mark, Jr., was reading the ASA Rules Book and I didn't hear him correctly (my hearing is bad as my eyesight, ).

I am going to bed now and will go back and re-edit my original post in the morning.

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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 03:04am
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Why would it need to be taken up with the NFHS rules committee? There is a case play that covers the exact situation and in NFHS the runner is not awarded 3rd, they are out. Malicious contact in NFHS is always an out if committed by an offensive player, and an ejection by any player who commits malicious contact.

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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 09:35am
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Why would it need to be taken up with the NFHS rules committee? There is a case play that covers the exact situation and in NFHS the runner is not awarded 3rd, they are out. Malicious contact in NFHS is always an out if committed by an offensive player, and an ejection by any player who commits malicious contact.
Because this is a case of the casebook rewriting the book. The rule book does not support the case play. If the caseplay is what they really do want, they need to edit the rule book.
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 09:54am
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Because this is a case of the casebook rewriting the book. The rule book does not support the case play. If the caseplay is what they really do want, they need to edit the rule book.
And, as far as I know, we always give precedence to the rules over the cases, supplements, POE, etc.
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 11:05am
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Every situation cannot be covered in the rule book, that is why there are case plays and clarifications published. And since when do we ever rule different of what a published case play states, regardless of what we feel the rule book justifies?

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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 02:09pm
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 03:48pm
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"Play: R1 on 2B, R2 on 1B, 2 outs and B5 at Bat with no count. F1 delivers an illegal pitch. B5 hits a ground ball to F6. As F-6 is attempting to make a play on the batted ball, R1 lowers their shoulder and plows into F-6, driving them to the ground. The umpires call time and interference and call R1 out and since this is the third out end the ½ inning."
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 07:48pm
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(All Adult Slow Pitch except Seniors) Any eligible player on the official line-up including available substitutes may be used as a courtesy runner. A courtesy runner may be used once per inning.



You would think they would have learned after the "inning ending home run" wording fiasco
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