Whats you call ASA, NFHS and NCAA

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

This is not the ASA's definition of a "crash," which is defined (described) in rule 8-7-Q and Rule supplement #13: the requirement for a crash is the defensive player has to have (possession) of the ball.

You may still choose to eject, but not because of a "crash."

Originally Posted by CecilOne

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There is no R2 and no second "crash". The eject/DQ is for "maliciously".

If the IP Penalty is applied, the R1 sub is awarded 3rd.

Mark, Jr., and I talked about that. There is no term "malicious contact" in the ASA Rules Book but it does use the word "crash". We did not want to use a term that was not in the ASA Rules Book. We think that we could use the "unsportsmanlike conduct" or something to the effect. But I think that we all will agree that the penalty for R1's egregious contact is ejection.

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Why are you placing R1's sub back on 2nd?? With an accepted IP, isn't that runner awarded a base in ASA, just as in NFHS and NCAA??

ASA Rules are not quite the same as the NFHS and NCAA Rules. What I wrote is correct. ASA: R1's substitute returns to 2B; NFHS and NCAA: R2's substitute is awarded 3B.

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Fed*8.6.14 SITUATION B:

With R1 on second base and R2 on first base, F1 throws an illegal pitch; B3 hits ground ball to F4 who is attempting to field the ball. R2 maliciously contacts F4.

RULING: Interference does not supersede illegal pitch. Umpire(s) signal delayed dead ball for illegal pitch and then immediate dead ball for the malicious contact. R2 is out for malicious contact. The offense’s team coach is given the option of the result of the play or the penalty for the illegal pitch. If the coach selects the result of the play, R1 is returned to second, R2 is out and B3 is awarded first base. If the coach selects the penalty for the illegal pitch, R1 is awarded third base, R2 is out for malicious contact, B3 is returned to the plate, awarded a ball and if the ball is ball four, is awarded first base.

COMMENT: Because malicious contact will always supersede any other illegal action, both malicious contact and illegal pitch penalties are enforced in this situation. (5-1-1e; 8-6-10)

Mark, Jr., and I do not believe that the Comment in the NFHS Casebook Play cannot be supported by rule. Per NFHS Rules, Malicious Contact only supersedes Obstruction, but that is a discussion to have with the NFHS Softball Rules Committee.

MTD, Sr.