The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Soccer

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue Aug 30, 2016, 08:26pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Blue Hill, Maine
Posts: 13
Three Whistle System

Hello friends,

I have been asked by the Maine Association of Soccer Officials, the association to which anyone who referees high school in Maine must belong, to research the question of the prevalence around the country of the 3 whistle system.

Do you use it in your state?
is it the only system you use or do you utilize the dual system and the DSC as well?
In what ways do you find it superior to the dual and DSC?
How is that system received by players and coaches?
Is it a hard system to manage effectively?
Difficult to teach?

if any of you have some thoughts on this issue, I welcome your input.

Many thanks,

Steve Johnson
Secretary/Treasurer
Maine Association of Soccer Officials
Bangor, Maine.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Wed Aug 31, 2016, 04:34pm
LRZ LRZ is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: SE PA
Posts: 432
In Pennsylvania, we use only the dual or the double-dual system (3-whistle), but not the DSC. As far as I know, that is a state-wide PIAA modification of NFHS. Which of the two systems is used is typically determined by two factors: (1) a school's willingness to incur the added expense, and (2) availability of officials. As a consequence, many schools in this area (SE PA, outside of Philadelphia) stick to the dual system, but a small minority use the double-dual for boys varsity matches.

I have never refereed the double-dual, but from watching, I don't like it, as it can result in inconsistency, as the three officials rotate in and out. If you have the luxury of assigning three officials, I prefer the consistency of the DSC. If the double-dual were so superior, FIFA would use it, no?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Sat Sep 10, 2016, 02:09pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by LRZ View Post
..If the double-dual were so superior, FIFA would use it, no?
FIFA is not exactly noted for their forward thinking....

In Arkansas, the DSC is the preferred method for refereeing HS matches but the dual system of control is permitted as well. I am not familiar with the three whistle system.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Sat Sep 10, 2016, 05:56pm
LRZ LRZ is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: SE PA
Posts: 432
Quote:
Originally Posted by chmoor View Post
FIFA is not exactly noted for their forward thinking....

In Arkansas, the DSC is the preferred method for refereeing HS matches but the dual system of control is permitted as well. I am not familiar with the three whistle system.
To my knowledge, NCAA, another organization not exactly noted for forward thinking, also uses the DSC. But please don't suggest NFHS is forward thinking.

Essentially, the 3w system is the DSC, but with whistles for all 3 officials, instead of a center whistle and two flags. Where it gets really bizarre is that the refs switch positions every third of the match! That can change a match's tenor dramatically. Thankfully, not many schools here use it.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Thu May 03, 2018, 08:49pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Rockville,MD
Posts: 371
Not a soccer official, but I'd prefer the DSC, because each official has separate, overlapping responsibilities CR has fouls and advantage, ARs help with restarts and have offside calls). In 3-whistle, three different officials will be making different sets of calls, and I have no idea what criteria each whistle would use.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The System SCalScoreKeeper Basketball 12 Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:56pm
Double Dual System (i.e. 3 Whistle) CMHCoachNRef Soccer 1 Thu Nov 29, 2012 04:59pm
Double Dual System (i.e. 3 Whistle) CMHCoachNRef Soccer 3 Fri Aug 17, 2012 01:13pm
Four Man system 3appleshigh Baseball 7 Tue Jun 13, 2006 08:26pm
One Man System chiquita Softball 16 Fri Jun 17, 2005 07:10am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:11am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1