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Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 04:46pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref Fair enough. :) Fair enough. :)

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 04:28pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref I'm going to see what my commish has to say on... I'm going to see what my commish has to say on this one. I have a funny feeling he will say: "get together, it cant be both so make one call not some cheesy double foul, and then figure out which one...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 04:25pm

Replies: 136 End of game situation Views: 9,312 Posted By cdaref Yeah, but 0.2 or 0.5? Makes a difference. I agree... Yeah, but 0.2 or 0.5? Makes a difference. I agree with whoever said I dont want to be in this situation, lets make sure we have a look. :) I know that is the easy way out of this one.

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 04:05pm

Replies: 8 First Games Views: 1,281 Posted By cdaref You should have fun. Yes, they can be a pain. But... You should have fun. Yes, they can be a pain. But they can be pretty good. I havent worked them in a long time. But I remember my first year officiating. After a bunch of freshman and bad JV games, a...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 03:47pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref I wonder what Nevada would say on this ;) I wonder what Nevada would say on this ;)

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 03:45pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref Snaq, if that is true, then I have to be wrong. I... Snaq, if that is true, then I have to be wrong. I dont believe I am. I think my reading makes more sense. But I dont have your experience on this. I certainly cant say I have any idea how "virtually...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 03:40pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref Snaq, come on. I saw it Friday. I'm waiting for... Snaq, come on. I saw it Friday. I'm waiting for my varsity game with my 3 man crew watching the JV officials work 2 man. That exact thing happened. Primary whistled and indicated one way, older...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 03:30pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref If that's true, then I am wrong. I can live with... If that's true, then I am wrong. I can live with that. I will continue to pregame holding signals to stay out of the blarge nightmare. Because even if I am right, having two officials with two...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 03:11pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref The only sane way to read 4.19.8(C) in my opinion... The only sane way to read 4.19.8(C) in my opinion is to read it as follows: both officials have different calls (admittedly, this shouldnt happen, off primary should hold his call even if he has a...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 03:08pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref M&M, I hear you. The problem only arises when the... M&M, I hear you. The problem only arises when the non-primary official not only comes up with a fist but also makes a signal that is different from what the other official has. But why does that...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 03:04pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref In the Official's Manual, in the pregame they... In the Official's Manual, in the pregame they print in the back, it mentions "double whistles with different calls" in the "Communication" section of the pregame--along with the help calls, like...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 03:00pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref Of course, 2.4.8 which talks about double... Of course, 2.4.8 which talks about double whistles also says the officials should get together to "determine the correct call" and that the decision on the final call should be left to the primary...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 02:55pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref Even the official's manual calls the signal on... Even the official's manual calls the signal on the floor a "preliminary signal." 2.4.2(B)(4): "lower the foul signal [fist] and indicate the nature of the foul by giving a preliminary signal." ...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 02:50pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref I can't explain it. BUT I can say that it... I can't explain it. BUT I can say that it does not mandate that preliminary signals are irreversible. I think the only way to understand 4.19.8(C) is to think of the situation where both officials...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 02:48pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref I will concede, of course, that I have no... I will concede, of course, that I have no freaking clue how 4.19.8(C) can be possible with just A1 and B1. I could see, perhaps, A1 charges into B1, while at the exact same time secondary defender B2...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 02:41pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref Of course you can defer. There is no such thing... Of course you can defer. There is no such thing as a binding irreversible signal. The only call that counts is the one reported to the table. Find me a rule that says a preliminary signal is binding...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 02:35pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref I'm sure at our "get together" either I or my... I'm sure at our "get together" either I or my partner will learn that the other had the better look. A preliminary signal is no more a binding irreversible ruling than an out of bounds call.

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 01:53pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref By the way, BITS, I presume you are speaking in... By the way, BITS, I presume you are speaking in the hypothetical that that is the way to actually get a blarge. I hope you will agree that in any crew you work that is not actually ever going to...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 01:51pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref No, you've got yourself a conference where one of... No, you've got yourself a conference where one of you two is going to be a grown up, defer the call, and get a single call because it can't really be both a block and a charge. You are absolutely NOT...

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 17, 2009, 01:48pm

Replies: 89 blarge- POI or AP Views: 5,732 Posted By cdaref Let's not forget the world's worst blarge--when... Let's not forget the world's worst blarge--when called by one official: one hand behind head in a player control signal and the other on hip in a partial block signal. I've never seen it, but...

Forum: Basketball Fri Nov 13, 2009, 02:00pm

Replies: 13 Out of Bounds Plays Views: 1,503 Posted By cdaref Moral of the story: dont be out of bounds. Then... Moral of the story: dont be out of bounds. Then guys (or girls) cant throw the ball off you.

Forum: Basketball Fri Nov 13, 2009, 01:44pm

Replies: 24 disappointed Views: 2,493 Posted By cdaref +1 for the CMG Love it. Dont like the mini... +1 for the CMG Love it. Dont like the mini (even with CMG).

Forum: Basketball Fri Nov 13, 2009, 01:41pm

Replies: 9 Verification Views: 861 Posted By cdaref The coach didnt yell that he caught it before he... The coach didnt yell that he caught it before he "broke the plane" into the back court? A coach yelled that when I made that call one time. That's one of my favorites. :)

Forum: Basketball Fri Nov 13, 2009, 01:13pm

Replies: 5 Fumble after dribble ended. Ball fall on the floor Views: 1,040 Posted By cdaref You can fumble dribble fumble, but you cant... You can fumble dribble fumble, but you cant dribble fumble dribble. :)

Forum: Basketball Tue Nov 10, 2009, 02:44pm

Replies: 12 Another New Guy Views: 1,745 Posted By cdaref Welcome to officiating and have fun! You will... Welcome to officiating and have fun! You will love it. Here is what I tell new officials their first night: You know what the rules of basketball are. 95% of everything that happens is real...

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