Luke Kuechly Ejected

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by hbk314

So because in a lot of cases players behave a certain way, even though this player didn't, you think what happened is acceptable?

Since the game of football began, at every level, something that is KNOWN by EVERY player; hitting an official is like hitting your MOTHER, and doing so causes consequences. There are no excuses, no allowances, it is something that is NEVER, EVER allowed.

On a second note, there is no valid reason to unpile opponents off a pile. If there is a problem with players on the pile, game officials will handle it. When a player CHOOSES to pull opponents ANYWHERE after the play is over, he accepts whatever consequences result. That too is nothing new, and something EVERY player, at every level, should understand.

If a player wants to protect a fellow player, he should buy him a big dog (but the dog won't be allowed on the field either)

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Since the game of football began, at every level, something that is KNOWN by EVERY player; hitting an official is like hitting your MOTHER, and doing so causes consequences. There are no excuses, no allowances, it is something that is NEVER, EVER allowed.

On a second note, there is no valid reason to unpile opponents off a pile. If there is a problem with players on the pile, game officials will handle it. When a player CHOOSES to pull opponents ANYWHERE after the play is over, he accepts whatever consequences result. That too is nothing new, and something EVERY player, at every level, should understand.

If a player wants to protect a fellow player, he should buy him a big dog (but the dog won't be allowed on the field either)

Again, I don't think he hit him.

Also, Kuechly wasn't doing any of that. He got ripped off the pile, got up and was walking away from the situation.

[JRutledge]

I think the overall point you are missing here is it really does not matter if he hit him or not. He was acting like a jackazz and he got caught and did it to the wrong person.

An officiating mentor used to say to me, "You can roll the dice all you want, you just might crap out." He rolled the dice and he was around the wrong person. If that person had been you, he might have been lucky. If it was me, you might have been ejected. Not all officials feel the same about plays and situation and that is never going to change.

Peace

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think the overall point you are missing here is it really does not matter if he hit him or not. He was acting like a jackazz and he got caught and did it to the wrong person.

An officiating mentor used to say to me, "You can roll the dice all you want, you just might crap out." He rolled the dice and he was around the wrong person. If that person had been you, he might have been lucky. If it was me, you might have been ejected. Not all officials feel the same about plays and situation and that is never going to change.

Peace

He wasn't acting like a jackass. He was trying to walk away from the situation when he was grabbed from behind from a spot where a couple Packers were also standing. All he did was wrench his arm free. If he'd done anything more than that, I'd agree with you. It's not like he took a blind swing at anyone.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that he didn't do anything other than have a natural reaction to having his arm grabbed from behind. He freed himself and kept on walking away. It was a natural response to contact initiated by the official, completely non-malicious. To eject someone for a reaction like that is ridiculous.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hbk314

He wasn't acting like a jackass. He was trying to walk away from the situation when he was grabbed from behind from a spot where a couple Packers were also standing. All he did was wrench his arm free. If he'd done anything more than that, I'd agree with you. It's not like he took a blind swing at anyone.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that he didn't do anything other than have a natural reaction to having his arm grabbed from behind. He freed himself and kept on walking away. It was a natural response to contact initiated by the official, completely non-malicious. To eject someone for a reaction like that is ridiculous.

Well that is your opinion and you have a right to hold that opinion. And considering what people think is appropriate is subjective. And when you have an official at that level grabbing you and trying to pull you away from the situation and you still cannot stop, then I have no sympathy for your situation. If he had swung at a player and missed, he would have been ejected as well. So if that is ridiculous to you, because that standard certainly applies at the NCAA and NF(HS) levels. I am sure the NFL has been given guidelines for their players and tell their officials what they are to do in these situations. You can complain all you like, but that is the way it is and unless I hear something else, something tells me this ejection is going to stand or be supported.

Peace

[JugglingReferee]

Stokley DQ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPX7qleLtzc

[CT1]

I'm ready to see the "Locked" icon on this thread.....

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well that is your opinion and you have a right to hold that opinion. And considering what people think is appropriate is subjective. And when you have an official at that level grabbing you and trying to pull you away from the situation and you still cannot stop, then I have no sympathy for your situation. If he had swung at a player and missed, he would have been ejected as well. So if that is ridiculous to you, because that standard certainly applies at the NCAA and NF(HS) levels. I am sure the NFL has been given guidelines for their players and tell their officials what they are to do in these situations. You can complain all you like, but that is the way it is and unless I hear something else, something tells me this ejection is going to stand or be supported.

Peace

He was walking away from the situation, and he continued to walk away after freeing himself from the person grabbing him. At least comment on the situation as it happened.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Stokley DQ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPX7qleLtzc

Good ejection. Not at all related to what happened here.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hbk314

He was walking away from the situation, and he continued to walk away after freeing himself from the person grabbing him. At least comment on the situation as it happened.

So walking away means you can throw an elbow? And once again, if he had hit a player in the face, I guess your answer is that, "He was walking away, so that makes it OK" too?

Peace