Luke Kuechly Ejected

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Here is what I mean. Players all the time do not stop when the play is clearly over and in these piles. And I am sure the official was talking to him as well and it probably was a little more than him grabbing the player. He probably tried to get him to get away. And often these players keep going when they clearly are not any longer in the play or with the ball. High school players know how to stop. College players know how to stop. Get off the pile and get away. Now if the NFL has a problem they will say so. But until then, he could have stopped and got away and I am sure the officials was talking to him. I have no sympathy what so ever for this player.

I dunno about you JRut but when I'm grabbed from behind I don't react well. You can't expect players to "just stop" when they are frustrated. Football is full of this type of reaction -- if the ref wades in there and gets involved he better expect that this might happen.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I dunno about you JRut but when I'm grabbed from behind I don't react well. You can't expect players to "just stop" when they are frustrated. Football is full of this type of reaction -- if the ref wades in there and gets involved he better expect that this might happen.

I dunno about you, but I work football all the time and we grab or touch players so they get off the pile. And we are usually yelling at them to get off the pile or the play is over. Now we do not grab them at my levels like they do at the NFL level, but if a player gets up in the wrong way, they could be subject to the same action, whether it is me the officials or an opponent. Once again, I have no sympathy.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I dunno about you JRut but when I'm grabbed from behind I don't react well. You can't expect players to "just stop" when they are frustrated. Football is full of this type of reaction -- if the ref wades in there and gets involved he better expect that this might happen.

And if you don't react well when an official tells you to get off the pile and grabs you... you see the result.

[hbk314]

Where's all this talk about striking an official coming from? He rotated his arm in an attempt to get whoever was grabbing him to release him. From both angles shown it's clear he wasn't even close to contacting the official's head, much less "clocking" him.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hbk314

Where's all this talk about striking an official coming from? He rotated his arm in an attempt to get whoever was grabbing him to release him. From both angles shown it's clear he wasn't even close to contacting the official's head, much less "clocking" him.

I see one angle. He did not have to necessarily hit him in the head. He still might have hit him.

Peace

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I see one angle. He did not have to necessarily hit him in the head. He still might have hit him.

Peace

There's two angles shown in the video if you watch it all the way through.

His hand may have come to rest on the officials shoulder. That's not "striking" the official considering the circumstances. I was responding directly to Sturno's claim that Kuechly "clocked" the official in the side of the head.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hbk314

There's two angles shown in the video if you watch it all the way through.

His hand may have come to rest on the officials shoulder. That's not "striking" the official considering the circumstances. I was responding directly to Sturno's claim that Kuechly "clocked" the official in the side of the head.

I did see the videos and I do think the officials has hit. Now was he hit very hard? No, but you do not have to be hit and whether he hit him or not might not have been the actual issues. Once again, the officials I am sure was talking to him and there were words as well as actions that played a role.

Peace