fumble, enforcement spot

[whitehat]

NFHS: Hey guys here is something we don't run into often but if we have a fumble beyond the LOS we bean bag that because it becomes the end of the run for enforcement. And, if we have multiple fumbles we can have multiple "end of the run" spots and therefore multiple enforecment spots. So, since we rarely see it wondering what that might actually look like on the following play: Play 2 is an extension of Play 1.

Play 1: Ball on A/30, during running play B commits FM (major). A20 fumbles at A/35. A86 recovers the fumble at A/40 and begins to run. A 86 is downed at the B/45. What are the penalty options and spot of enforcemnt for the FM?

Play 2 : Ball on A/30, during running play B committs FM (Major). A 20 fumbles at A/35. A 86 recovers fumble at A/40 and runs to B/45 where he fumbles. A 10 recovers at B/40 and is downed there . During A86's run there is a PF aganst B50. What are penalty options and enforcement spots?

[HLin NC]

Remember the words "related run" and "multiple foul".

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by whitehat

NFHS: Hey guys here is something we don't run into often but if we have a fumble beyond the LOS we bean bag that because it becomes the end of the run for enforcement. And, if we have multiple fumbles we can have multiple "end of the run" spots and therefore multiple enforecment spots. So, since we rarely see it wondering what that might actually look like on the following play: Play 2 is an extension of Play 1.

Play 1: Ball on A/30, during running play B commits FM (major). A20 fumbles at A/35. A86 recovers the fumble at A/40 and begins to run. A 86 is downed at the B/45. What are the penalty options and spot of enforcement for the FM?

Enforcement spot is the end of the related run (A/35).

So, Team A can have a 15-yard penalty enforced from the A/35 to the 50, or decline the penalty and take the result of the play at the B/45. A will almost certainly decline the penalty under normal circumstances; however, if the line-to-gain is beyond the B/45, A might accept the penalty and replay the down at the 50.

Play 2 : Ball on A/30, during running play B committs FM (Major). A 20 fumbles at A/35. A 86 recovers fumble at A/40 and runs to B/45 where he fumbles. A 10 recovers at B/40 and is downed there . During A86's run there is a PF aganst B50. What are penalty options and enforcement spots?

First foul has an enforcement spot at the A/35, penalty will leave the ball at the 50.

Second foul has an enforcement spot at the B/45, accepting this penalty will leave the ball at the B/30.

End of the run is at the B/40.

So, A can have the ball at the 50, the B/40, or the B/30. Almost certainly they will choose the B/30.

[whitehat]

That is the way I see it as well Jthe Ump. HLin NC: very good reminder phrase "related run" and "multiple fouls."

If anyone sees it any different or we are missing something please chime in...