Try after fair catch

[LDUB]

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
This is just one of those things you have to know in case it ever happens. Kinda like being prepared for more than one legal forward pass in a high school game.

[Edited by Rich Fronheiser on Aug 26th, 2003 at 06:53 AM]

Now I don't officiate football but i play football. Currentely I only officiate Baseball and Softball but I am in the process of adding basketball. But I plan on officiating football in a few years. So how is it possible to have 2 foreward passes on the same play legally? Also what does PSK mean? I read it all the time and I can't figure it out.

[BktBallRef]

Because the rules allow it. As long as each pass thrown from in or behind the neutral zone, the pass is legal.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by LDUB

So how is it possible to have 2 foreward passes on the same play legally?

NF is the only level that allows multiple forward passes, as long as the ball is from behind the Line of Scrimmage.

Originally posted by LDUB

Also what does PSK mean? I read it all the time and I can't figure it out.

It means Post Scrimmage Kick. Basically it is a way to enforce penalties on a punt and field goal attempts that the Receiving team. NCAA and NFL all have a PSK enforcement and now the NF just put this rule in this year. It has caused a lot of confusion, so this is why you are seeing so much talk about PSK this year.

Peace

[jrfath]

In the 2003 Case book, page 46, 6.5.4 Situation B addresses this scenario...
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QUOTE]Originally posted by rdfox
Our association came up this scenario...

R makes a fair catch on its own 10 yd line with three seconds to go in the first half. It then throws a "Hail Mary" pass which is caught by A80 at the fifty who is immediately tackled. Time has run out.

However, there was roughing the passer back in A's end zone.

Therefore, the penalty will be assessed to B's 35 and A is given an untimed down as a replay...They then have the right to choose a free kick for three points...from a tee...no snap...and no rush from B.

The one question we had as a group was, in explaining the penalty options to A, do we tell them of their right to a free kick? After discussion, we decided "No". [/QUOTE]

[JimNayzium]

Coach's take on this again...

1. First of all I love the hail mary scenario...nice work...

2. As a coach I have def tried a free kick after fair catch...and have scored a touchdown in the state championship game on two forward passes....nice reference again...in fact when i found this rule i designed a play just to say i had done it...we called it "the dumb play" in the huddle...not so dumb after it scored...haha...

3. TRUE story here which is funny...Michael Groh the quarterback at UVA a couple of years back is one of my close friends...he kicked a 37 yard field goal to win his state chmpionship his senior year...it made like the 44th game in a row they won...the funny thing is he fair caught the punt with eight seconds left on the twenty and they did not know they coudl free kick...his thirty seven yarder squeeked in the right upright....pretty good a coach could win forty four in a row and not know the rule on this one...

4. Interesting tid bit...I have the state record fg in sc with a 61 yarder but the record books don't differ from a free kick and a fg...which they should...

the high school sixty eight yarder was a free kick....there has been a high school sixty seven yard fg, but i am pretty sure borgogone's sixty eight yearder was a free kick...dont yall think there should be a free kick record and a field goal record???

[Jaguar]

Central wins on rare kick

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/sports/6760515.htm

[Bob M.]

Originally posted by JimNayzium
Coach's take on this again...

3. TRUE story here which is funny...Michael Groh the quarterback at UVA a couple of years back is one of my close friends...he kicked a 37 yard field goal to win his state chmpionship his senior year...it made like the 44th game in a row they won...the funny thing is he fair caught the punt with eight seconds left on the twenty and they did not know they coudl free kick...his thirty seven yarder squeeked in the right upright....pretty good a coach could win forty four in a row and not know the rule on this one...

REPLY: I distinctly remember this. Randolph HS vs. Montclair HS. Groh was the QB and kicker for Randolph. It was 1990, I think. I had just finished officiating another group's championship game and was driving home when I heard about it on the radio. Rather than drive directly home, I went to my parents' house to watch it on cable TV. I'm not sure that their coach (Bauer) didn't know the rule. There may have been another explanation. Here's what I saw. The punt was very high but very, very short. The receiver signalled and came running up hard to make the catch. He actually dove and made the catch just before he hit the ground. BUT...I'm not sure that the kick ever crossed the NZ. In that case, the ball was dead because of the signal, but it would not be a fair catch and they would have no choice but to kick the FG from a conventional scrimmage kick formation. The officials on that game were from outside our chapter, so I never got their perspective.