Is the NFL ever going to use logic with its replay rules?

[HLin NC]

So you guys are as stupid as the typical NFL fan on an ESPN comment board?

No, we're just not so stupid to :

a) argue over issues none of us have ANY control or input over.
b) Give two $#!tZ about it.
c) Keep chasing our tail.

We are all pretty much happy discussing HS and NCAA rules, which is what we do dabble in. The occasional NFL discussion pops up, gets discussed, and shuts down pretty quickly because none (I guess) of us are involved enough with the NFL to know much about it. Sure, we officiate at the level we have reached. That may give us a leg up on the Joe ESPNMessageBoard Guy but doesn't equate us to Ed Hochuli or Mike Pereira either.

Might I suggest the following might be more to your liking:

INSIDE THE STRIPES

Football Zebras | Analysis and commentary of the NFL's officials and the calls they make

Home | Behind the Football Stripes (Be careful here, BECKY10 has a thing for #85)

[asdf]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

No, we're just not so stupid to :

a) argue over issues none of us have ANY control or input over.
b) Give two $#!tZ about it.
c) Keep chasing our tail.

We are all pretty much happy discussing HS and NCAA rules, which is what we do dabble in. The occasional NFL discussion pops up, gets discussed, and shuts down pretty quickly because none (I guess) of us are involved enough with the NFL to know much about it. Sure, we officiate at the level we have reached. That may give us a leg up on the Joe ESPNMessageBoard Guy but doesn't equate us to Ed Hochuli or Mike Pereira either.

Might I suggest the following might be more to your liking:

INSIDE THE STRIPES

Football Zebras | Analysis and commentary of the NFL's officials and the calls they make

Home | Behind the Football Stripes (Be careful here, BECKY10 has a thing for #85)

He's too busy posting on the Steeler Forums.

.... and now it all makes sense......

Fanboy

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by hbk314

I've given a well-thought-out argument for why this play and other currently not reviewable plays should be reviewable. To put it simply: There's either evidence to overturn or there's not.

I know you've said fouls shouldn't be reviewable (clarification - foul is the act, penalty is the enforcement), but this could contradict your point about "there's either evidence to overturn or there's not." What is DPI is thrown but replays show there was no contact at all? There is definitely evidence the official got it wrong. It's not a judgement situation. The covering official obviously saw contact that wasn't there. Why shouldn't replay be able to fix that? I agree fouls shouldn't be reviewable but it's also why I avoid using the phrase "review everything that is obviously wrong". Sometimes things are wrong even after replay (see Colts-Bengals game from a couple weeks ago).

Originally Posted by asdf

No. It's not a big deal to me. I don't bet on the games or play fantasy football.

If the NFL sees enough of this play (I have now seen 1) that significantly alter the game, they will change it. The old "down by contact" ruling when the ball came loose prior to being down is a perfect example. They realized the number of plays were becoming significant, and the scope of the play was equally significant.

So they fixed it.

Until they satisfy you on this, just deal with it.

This is probably the best explanation I've seen so far. I do remember one other incident a couple years ago on a recovery after a QB sack. IIRC they ruled recovery by B on the field and it was then recovered by A. Replay clearly showed the B player never had possession so A was incorrectly awarded a new series. It can happen but I agree it's rare.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

This is probably the best explanation I've seen so far. I do remember one other incident a couple years ago on a recovery after a QB sack. IIRC they ruled recovery by B on the field and it was then recovered by A. Replay clearly showed the B player never had possession so A was incorrectly awarded a new series. It can happen but I agree it's rare.

Another example happened in San Diego where Ed Hochuli ruled that the QB threw a forward incomplete pass and blew it dead when replays clearly showed it was a fumble.

Next year, they make this a reviewable play.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by APG

Another example happened in San Diego where Ed Hochuli ruled that the QB threw a forward incomplete pass and blew it dead when replays clearly showed it was a fumble.

Next year, they make this a reviewable play.

That play made it possible for the Broncos to win that game, too.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by asdf

He's too busy posting on the Steeler Forums.

.... and now it all makes sense......

Fanboy

I only made this post because I was watching live when I've happened. I've displayed no bias whatsoever. I've simply said what most everyone else is saying: This play should be reviewable.

If I were coming on here to post like some idiot "fanboy" as you suggest, wouldn't I have tried to make it about the officials on the field, and not a flaw in the NFL's replay system that prevented the officials from getting it right in the end?

[asdf]

Originally Posted by hbk314

I only made this post because I was watching live when I've happened. I've displayed no bias whatsoever. I've simply said what most everyone else is saying: This play should be reviewable.

If I were coming on here to post like some idiot "fanboy" as you suggest, wouldn't I have tried to make it about the officials on the field, and not a flaw in the NFL's replay system that prevented the officials from getting it right in the end?

Google is a wonderful tool...

FB

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by asdf

Google is a wonderful tool...

FB

Yes. I'm a Steelers fan. That's completely irrelevant.

Everybody watching the game could see the issue with the process that needs to be fixed. As I'm sure you know, I live in Wisconsin. I have yet to talk to a single person who doesn't feel the Steelers got screwed over.