NBA Keeps Flopping Rules But Expands Replay......

[grunewar]

Thoughts? Slow the game down noticeably? A good thing? Too much second guessing?

NBA not making changes to toothless flopping fines; replay use expanded | ProBasketballTalk

[JetMetFan]

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NBA Board of Governors approves five rules changes

Official release
Posted Jul 19, 2013 12:52 AM


LAS VEGAS -- The NBA Board of Governors approved five rules changes for the upcoming 2013-14 season, the league announced Thursday.

Instant replay may now be used:

• When reviewing a block/charge play to determine whether the defender was inside or outside the restricted area, officials will now be permitted to reverse a charge call, or uphold a blocking call, when the defender was outside the restricted area but was not set when the offensive player began his upward shooting motion.

• To determine whether an off-ball foul occurred before or after a player has started his shooting motion on a successful shot attempt, or before or after the ball was released on a throw-in.

• During the review of any instant replay situation to permit the officials to assess the appropriate penalties of any unsportsmanlike and unnecessary acts (e.g. flagrant fouls) that are observed during the instant replay reviews.

Additional rules modifications:

• On clear path to the basket fouls, it will no longer be considered a clear path foul if at any point before the foul is committed, the defender who commits the foul is positioned ahead of the offensive player in the frontcourt.

• A team on offense will lose possession if its player leaves the floor and does not immediately return to the floor, unless he is injured, attempting to save the ball or in other extenuating circumstances.

[Travelling Man]

well in view of the recent nba playoffs; it was clear that the flopping rule was judiciously and consistently applied--what for the number of penalty fines metted out it was clear that an emphasis was made on flopping; wonder if this will translate down to the nfhs level?
usually about once or twice per season I'll have a 'big' feign getting charged on by point guard who is spinning to start his attack fast break---the pg will spin dribble and barely glance the big and the big will tumble like a stack of cards--then look askance at me--''asking for the charge"...I treat this as a "play on" situation--when it's obvious to all players--even his own teammates that he has flopped.

[APG]

How would the NBA penalty (which is a fine system which ramps up to possible suspension(s)) translate to the NFHS level? If one really wanted to, you could assess a technical foul for faking being fouled, but that T is only used for Ray Charles type of situations...more often than not, it's either no-called or called a block (which is a discussion that's been had here before).

[Travelling Man]

"ray charles" ? ! ? not sure of what that means in terms of relevance here--unless that is "referee trade jargon" for flopping?
help me out here?

[APG]

Originally Posted by Travelling Man

"ray charles" ? ! ? not sure of what that means in terms of relevance here--unless that is "referee trade jargon" for flopping?
help me out here?

So obvious that even a blind person could see it.

[Adam]

No call usually works at the high school level, and the coaches virtually always understand.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by APG

How would the NBA penalty (which is a fine system which ramps up to possible suspension(s)) translate to the NFHS level? If one really wanted to, you could assess a technical foul for faking being fouled, but that T is only used for Ray Charles type of situations...more often than not, it's either no-called or called a block (which is a discussion that's been had here before).

Plus the NBA issues many of the fines / suspensions aftger looking at the video, and from a central office. Both of which would be difficult to implement in a HS environment.

The "trickle down" might be that kids start to see less of it, or see that it's being penalized, and stop trying it as much at the HS level.

[Travelling Man]

Originally Posted by Travelling Man

well in view of the recent nba playoffs; it was clear that the flopping rule was judiciously and consistently applied--what for the number of penalty fines metted out it was clear that an emphasis was made on flopping; wonder if this will translate down to the nfhs level?
usually about once or twice per season I'll have a 'big' feign getting charged on by point guard who is spinning to start his attack fast break---the pg will spin dribble and barely glance the big and the big will tumble like a stack of cards--then look askance at me--''asking for the charge"...I treat this as a "play on" situation--when it's obvious to all players--even his own teammates that he has flopped.

*moreso, even his own coach could be herd yelling from the bench "get your butt up and hustle down on defense"--so eryone knows the 'big' flopped--it's so humorous to see a 5ft 5in 100 lb pg "pummel over" a 6ft 3i 200 lb post player going 6 mph--and th big falling backwards and wildly contorting his body on the hardwood floor as if he was rear-ended by a semi truk..lol

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Travelling Man

See a 5ft 5in 100 lb pg "pummel over" a 6ft 3i 200 lb post player going 6 mph, and the big falling backwards and wildly contorting his body on the hardwood floor as if he was rear-ended by a semi truck.

Hey Travelling Man: This is a basketball forum. Please post situations like this (above) on the soccer forum where they belong.

[Travelling Man]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Hey Travelling Man: This is a basketball forum. Please post situations like this (above) on the soccer forum where they belong.

*FYI @ Billymacs: follow the thread context--this was about reffing hoop--cited a specific situation that was relevant to the thread. But, all that being said, I'm thru commenting on this particular thread.thanks

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Travelling Man

This was about reffing hoop.

I'm well aware of that. I was just commenting on the prevalence of flopping in soccer compared to basketball. Soccer players have made flopping more of an art than of a science.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Travelling Man

*FYI @ Billymacs: follow the thread context--this was about reffing hoop--cited a specific situation that was relevant to the thread. But, all that being said, I'm thru commenting on this particular thread.thanks

You're new here, so I'll break it to you gently. Billy is not to be taken seriously. Taking him seriously can be hazardous to your mental health.

Oh, and on a serious note; welcome to the forum. I hope it's as helpful to you as it is to me.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The "trickle down" might be that kids start to see less of it, or see that it's being penalized, and stop trying it as much at the HS level.

We continue to see the "senior circuits" influence the junior leagues (under shirts (Ewing), arm sleeves (AI), head bands (Wallace maybe), and now we're on to leg sleeves). Let's hope this is one "trickle down" for the better.......

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

Billy is not to be taken seriously. Taking him seriously can be hazardous to your mental health.

Shut up. Seriously.