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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 07:36pm
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Let us review everything. Games will take 2 days, but why not. No one wants to do anything else but watch football games all day.

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I'm not saying everything should be reviewed, but the option to challenge should be there.
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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 07:41pm
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Can we just set up a separate forum board entitled "I Hate The #%^*€>+ NFL".

It would make things so much simpler.
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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 08:05pm
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Can we just set up a separate forum board entitled "I Hate The #%^*€>+ NFL".

It would make things so much simpler.
You know the point of a forum is to discuss things?

I honestly appreciate the officials perspective and feel you guys here have a much better handle on things than your typical fan you'll see online.

While I may debate certain points here, you at least have to acknowledge that my points are logical. I'm not just debating for the sake of debating.
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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 08:27pm
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You know the point of a forum is to discuss things?

I honestly appreciate the officials perspective and feel you guys here have a much better handle on things than your typical fan you'll see online.

While I may debate certain points here, you at least have to acknowledge that my points are logical. I'm not just debating for the sake of debating.
Could have fooled me.
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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 08:27pm
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Guys, hbk314 can say whatever he wants within the rules of this Forum. Please do not criticize what he posts about, he has free will. If you dislike what he chooses to write about, ignore it and don't reply. Thank you.
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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 08:37pm
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Guys, hbk314 can say whatever he wants within the rules of this Forum. Please do not criticize what he posts about, he has free will. If you dislike what he chooses to write about, ignore it and don't reply. Thank you.
People can come plain and will complain no matter what the topic. We do not need you to tell people what to complain about.

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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 09:50pm
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Guys, hbk314 can say whatever he wants within the rules of this Forum. Please do not criticize what he posts about, he has free will. If you dislike what he chooses to write about, ignore it and don't reply. Thank you.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Some will criticize, some will ignore. Both are perfectly acceptable and viable options.

I hope you reread what you stated and see that you just did what you are arguing against.
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Old Mon Dec 23, 2013, 01:35pm
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Old Mon Dec 23, 2013, 01:42pm
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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 08:32pm
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You know the point of a forum is to discuss things?

I honestly appreciate the officials perspective and feel you guys here have a much better handle on things than your typical fan you'll see online.

While I may debate certain points here, you at least have to acknowledge that my points are logical. I'm not just debating for the sake of debating.
As a baseball umpire, who knows nothing about officiating football, I have read some of your posts and this is what I take from them.One, you are not an official. Two, this means you have a VERY limited knowledge of what they do. Three, you are a coach.Therefore you by nature biased against officials. And four, you know enough to be dangerous. In baseball we have a saying "know the rule, know how to apply the rule, and know the spirit or intent of the rule". Oh as far as "logic" goes I think you argue just to hear your head rattle!
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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 08:57pm
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As a baseball umpire, who knows nothing about officiating football, I have read some of your posts and this is what I take from them.One, you are not an official. Two, this means you have a VERY limited knowledge of what they do. Three, you are a coach.Therefore you by nature biased against officials. And four, you know enough to be dangerous. In baseball we have a saying "know the rule, know how to apply the rule, and know the spirit or intent of the rule". Oh as far as "logic" goes I think you argue just to hear your head rattle!
I'm also a baseball umpire.

I've stated I don't officiate football, but I think I have a better understanding of the game than a lot of fans, but not to the level of an experienced official.

I'm certainly not a coach.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the spirit of the rule line.

This is a play that clearly could have been fixed with replay. It doesn't make sense that it couldn't be challenged. It's not going to tack a bunch of time on allowing a play such as this to be challenged. If it's a loose ball in a pile of bodies, there's not going to be evidence to overturn, so it likely won't be challenged unless the coach wants to lose a timeout.

I've given a well-thought-out argument for why this play and other currently not reviewable plays should be reviewable. To put it simply: There's either evidence to overturn or there's not.

Nobody's really given me a good reason as to why it shouldn't be.
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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 09:25pm
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Nobody's really given me a good reason as to why it shouldn't be.
Well that is subjective right? It does not mean you have accepted the reasons, which in fact are true.

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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 09:43pm
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Well that is subjective right? It does not mean you have accepted the reasons, which in fact are true.

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Doesn't make them good reasons.

Are you honestly telling me you don't think that play should be reviewable?
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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 11:07pm
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No one here works for the NFL, so your complaints will never be satisfied here. Try Tweeting Blandino.

Tomlin should have challenged that Clark was down by contact, that is reviewable.

Why aren't balls and strikes reviewable?
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Old Sun Dec 22, 2013, 10:02pm
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you at least have to acknowledge that my points are logical.
a swing and a miss....

APG gave you the explanation of why this type of play is not reviewable. he gave you the logic behind the reason. (which is spot on) Then he gave an out where it may some day become reviewable.

You in turn stomped your feet, held your breath and said it should be reviewed.

Not logical

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