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Old Tue Dec 10, 2013, 09:25am
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I'm not sure what the problem is with saying a call is wrong when it's wrong. Is there a reason I can't offer my opinion on a play when bringing it up for discussion?
Yeah, the part where somebody responds with answer you don't like, so then you argue the point, even though you've never officiated the sport.
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Old Tue Dec 10, 2013, 10:36am
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Yeah, the part where somebody responds with answer you don't like, so then you argue the point, even though you've never officiated the sport.
Isn't discussion the point of a message board?

I know in the case of the Gronkowski play, I disagreed with the interpretation of the rule cited.
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Old Tue Dec 10, 2013, 10:39am
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Isn't discussion the point of a message board?

I know in the case of the Gronkowski play, I disagreed with the interpretation of the rule cited.
Yes, discussions based on experience and knowledge of the rules; or else, to learn and gain knowledge.
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Old Tue Dec 10, 2013, 10:40am
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Yes, discussions based on experience and knowledge of the rules; or else, to learn and gain knowledge.
That's what I just said.
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Old Tue Dec 10, 2013, 02:39pm
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That's what I just said.
Learning; deferring to those who have rules knowledge and game experience? No, I don't remember reading anything like that.
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Old Tue Dec 10, 2013, 02:48pm
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Learning; deferring to those who have rules knowledge and game experience? No, I don't remember reading anything like that.
I did learn something. I found out about an illogical flaw in the NFL's replay system.
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Old Tue Dec 10, 2013, 03:02pm
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Enough axe grinding.
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Old Tue Dec 10, 2013, 10:43am
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The IndyStar has a feature today showing stills of the play from the angle it sounds like Red Zone may have had. The live feed and all the feeds I saw from the press box side were inconclusive to me that Chapman tripped the runner. From angle in these stills though it does appear the contact was made.

Anatomy of a Play: Blown call costs the Colts in Cincy

Triplett never said the replays didn't show this part of the play. He just said he didn't look at it. We don't know what he did or didn't see.
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Old Tue Dec 10, 2013, 11:03am
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The IndyStar has a feature today showing stills of the play from the angle it sounds like Red Zone may have had. The live feed and all the feeds I saw from the press box side were inconclusive to me that Chapman tripped the runner. From angle in these stills though it does appear the contact was made.

Anatomy of a Play: Blown call costs the Colts in Cincy

Triplett never said the replays didn't show this part of the play. He just said he didn't look at it. We don't know what he did or didn't see.
That's helpful. Although I hate how they put the big blurry yellow oval right exactly where we need to see. To my memory, the angle I saw on Red Zone was lower and/or further back, and to the right of the one we see in (2) and (3) on the link you sent. On (3), I can't tell what is leg and what is hand - and to whom what belongs to (thanks yellow oval), but you sure could in the angle we saw on TV. There was definite space between the NT's hand and the RB's leg.

The view they call the "most obvious view" doesn't appear to be contact to me - and in fact is the opposite foot from the previous view - the right foot is closer to us (the camera) than the hand.
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