Clock Question After Timeout and Penalty on Subsequent Play

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

That's exactly his point.

Still don't see the problem. Quite frankly, I'm not sure why we alter time in the first place. 15 minute quarters, after all. Our games already take about 3 hours -- that's plenty of time for a team to win or lose a game.

[HLin NC]

That's exactly his point.

Score more, early and often. Maintain possession, obtain possession.

We in this business are prone to say one play or one call didn't win or lose a ball game. Well here you go.

I don't ever see the Fed modifying timing rules to that extent in the remainder of my career. But if we are going to adjust, can I throw in "why not run the clock during the try? Between that and the subsequent intermission between the score and kickoff, we probably lose two real time minutes. In a 7 or 8 touchdown game, there's 15 minutes down the hatch. Don't even get me started on incomplete passes!

[Rich]

That's one NCAA change I'd like to see. Outside of 2 minutes, run the game clock after an incomplete pass is spotted. We already do it with runs out of bounds.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Rich

That's one NCAA change I'd like to see. Outside of 2 minutes, run the game clock after an incomplete pass is spotted. We already do it with runs out of bounds.

For this reason, it would not be a difficult change to propose, justify, or implement.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by maven

For this reason, it would not be a difficult change to propose, justify, or implement.

And I'll tell ya -- our D3 games (with no TV) are already 2:45 to 3:05 every week. Cutting a few seconds here and there *would not hurt*.

[SE Minnestoa Re]

Some of my high school games this year hit 2:30 and I think I keep them moving pretty good.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SE Minnestoa Re

Some of my high school games this year hit 2:30 and I think I keep them moving pretty good.

Exactly. My experience has been the same and my pace is far faster than most.

Not sure it's good for the game.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by SE Minnestoa Re

Some of my high school games this year hit 2:30 and I think I keep them moving pretty good.

All depends on the style of play... spread offense + lots of pass attempts + unskilled quarterbacks and/or receivers = lots of incomplete passes = long games.

On the other hand, I had a high school playoff game this year where the first quarter took 18 minutes of real time. One pass attempt (incomplete, on 4th down), one touchdown. Other than that, the only time the clocked stopped was to move the chains for first down. Every run ended in bounds. Pace slowed a bit after that, but the game was still over in just over 2 hours, including a 20 minute halftime.