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Pat / fg mechanics
Five man crew NFS level. We had a little sticky situation regards a line shot PAT at the cross bar where our BJ/L hesitated too much in visually signally
the call. We were mentored/clinicianed years ago that if it's good you verbal with your crew mate and try and step out together on the signal. If it is no good ONLY ONE GUY signals it, ie "his" upright or "his" crossbar. Did some google searching and found a 3 page treatise on PAT mechanics from a Southern Nevada Officials Assn which was pretty good but would still like to read some input from this forum. Our questions are on your 5 man crew: Who has the crossbar? Who blows the whistle and kills the play? When does he kill it? What is your mechanic on GOOD or NO GOOD in terms of visual signal? What do you change in any of these areas if it is a FG attempt as opposed to a PAT? THANKS FOR ANY INPUT AND ADVICE! |
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Most importantly, you NEVER says good or no good. We use yes or no.
Here, BJ has the whistle and crossbar. BOTH officials signal good or no good.
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Same here on all counts. The one difference from official mechanics: in MN, the B and U are under the uprights, not B and L.
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Mechanically the BJ has the whistle, the cross bar and their upright. The wing, whomever is under (we do the flip flop method) has their upright.
Not sure it is a state approved mechanic, but my crew says, "Yes, yes, yes" or "No, no, no." If the FG/PAT is good, then we both go up. If the attempt is no good, only the person who has their crossbar or upright threatened, then only that official signals "no good." Peace
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I am (as the U)... on a try it's not much more difficult than it would be from my 'normal' position ... on a longer field goal, it can be a bit difficult, but them's the breaks when you work a 5-man crew. The head clinician in MN wants it done this way, so we do it this way.
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How many long FG attempts do you see in HS? Our PTB's accept that compromise.
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We in South Dakota also have the umpire under the bar with the back judge, but only if the snap is from the 15 yard line or inside. The reason given is that they think this mechanic gives better coverage on a fake or a play where there may be a potential touchdown or not. So far, we haven't had any issues with it.
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This year, I've seen 2 FG attempts from 35+ yards out over the course of 7 varsity games (and none in sub-varsity games). One of them was a 46-yarder at the end of a half that would've been good from 56.
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I (the R) have the pylon. I work out at the numbers at about the 13-15 yard line. Really wouldn't be hard to get there if there was a fake or bad snap. Watching highlights around here, most Rs are way too close to the kicker and holder and probably would get steamrolled if there was a breakdown. I'm a big fan of "when in Rome" but it doesn't mean I have to like the mechanic. |
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