Pat / fg mechanics

[BktBallRef]

Most importantly, you NEVER says good or no good. We use yes or no.

Here, BJ has the whistle and crossbar.

BOTH officials signal good or no good.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Most importantly, you NEVER says good or no good. We use yes or no.

Here, BJ has the whistle and crossbar.

BOTH officials signal good or no good.

Same here on all counts. The one difference from official mechanics: in MN, the B and U are under the uprights, not B and L.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Same here on all counts. The one difference from official mechanics: in MN, the B and U are under the uprights, not B and L.

Horrible mechanics. Who's really able to look for contact on the snapper? Or a quick pull and shoot?

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by Rich

Horrible mechanics. Who's really able to look for contact on the snapper? Or a quick pull and shoot?

I am (as the U)... on a try it's not much more difficult than it would be from my 'normal' position ... on a longer field goal, it can be a bit difficult, but them's the breaks when you work a 5-man crew. The head clinician in MN wants it done this way, so we do it this way.

[maven]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

I am (as the U)... on a try it's not much more difficult than it would be from my 'normal' position ... on a longer field goal, it can be a bit difficult, but them's the breaks when you work a 5-man crew. The head clinician in MN wants it done this way, so we do it this way.

Ohio is the same.

How many long FG attempts do you see in HS? Our PTB's accept that compromise.

[REFANDUMP]

We in South Dakota also have the umpire under the bar with the back judge, but only if the snap is from the 15 yard line or inside. The reason given is that they think this mechanic gives better coverage on a fake or a play where there may be a potential touchdown or not. So far, we haven't had any issues with it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by REFANDUMP

We in South Dakota also have the umpire under the bar with the back judge, but only if the snap is from the 15 yard line or inside. The reason given is that they think this mechanic gives better coverage on a fake or a play where there may be a potential touchdown or not. So far, we haven't had any issues with it.

I (the R) have the pylon. I work out at the numbers at about the 13-15 yard line. Really wouldn't be hard to get there if there was a fake or bad snap. Watching highlights around here, most Rs are way too close to the kicker and holder and probably would get steamrolled if there was a breakdown.

I'm a big fan of "when in Rome" but it doesn't mean I have to like the mechanic.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by maven

Ohio is the same.

How many long FG attempts do you see in HS? Our PTB's accept that compromise.

This year, I've seen 2 FG attempts from 35+ yards out over the course of 7 varsity games (and none in sub-varsity games). One of them was a 46-yarder at the end of a half that would've been good from 56.

[JRutledge]

Mechanically the BJ has the whistle, the cross bar and their upright. The wing, whomever is under (we do the flip flop method) has their upright.

Not sure it is a state approved mechanic, but my crew says, "Yes, yes, yes" or "No, no, no."

If the FG/PAT is good, then we both go up. If the attempt is no good, only the person who has their crossbar or upright threatened, then only that official signals "no good."

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Mechanically the BJ has the whistle, the cross bar and their upright. The wing, whomever is under (we do the flip flop method) has their upright.

Not sure it is a state approved mechanic, but my crew says, "Yes, yes, yes" or "No, no, no."

If the FG/PAT is good, then we both go up. If the attempt is no good, only the person who has their crossbar or upright threatened, then only that official signals "no good."

Peace

I'm under an upright for the first time in a long time this year when working on Saturdays. The BJ on our crew (I'm the FJ) has a boatload of experience at every possible level and he says "GOOD" or "NO". Never an issue understanding him. Never really thought twice about it.

BJ's whistle. Both signal good, only one signals no good (although we both would if the kick was short).

[CT1]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Most importantly, you NEVER says good or no good. We use yes or no.

Here, BJ has the whistle and crossbar.

BOTH officials signal good or no good.

Ditto.