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Old Mon Aug 18, 2003, 09:32pm
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Where is the NFHS rule regarding a receiver being forced out of bounds by an defender and having the pass ruled complete, even though both feet didn't come down in bounds due to the force-out?
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Old Mon Aug 18, 2003, 09:40pm
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Where is the NFHS rule regarding a receiver being forced out of bounds by an defender and having the pass ruled complete, even though both feet didn't come down in bounds due to the force-out?
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Old Mon Aug 18, 2003, 09:45pm
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rule number

Does anyone know the rule number for this (NFHS)?
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Old Mon Aug 18, 2003, 10:36pm
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Well first off we only need 1 foot inbounds to have a completion. So I will assume you just mis-typed on the both feet thing. Under 2-4-1 it talks about being prevented from returning to the ground inbounds while maintaining possession.
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Old Mon Aug 18, 2003, 10:37pm
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A catch is the act of establishing player possession of a live ball which is in flight, and first contacting the ground inbounds or being contacted by an opponent in such a way that he is prevented from returning to the ground inbounds while maintaining possession of the ball.
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Old Tue Aug 19, 2003, 06:42am
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Defintions."rule-2".. has answers to a lot of questions.

See Case Book 2.4.1.Situation H.

Not that you would care, but in general that would not be a catch under NCAA rules. He would have to have been held and carried out..
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Old Tue Aug 19, 2003, 08:02am
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The Case Book explains this pretty well. Note the comment that says "the added force in the general direction he is moving is not considered a factor affecting his spot of landing."

There was a play on MNF last night that was reviewed by replay and ruled as a completed pass due to the force-out rule- in NFHS this wouldn't apply becuase that force was in the same direction the player was already moving.

Of course- he had one foot in anyway.
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Old Tue Aug 19, 2003, 12:53pm
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The Case Book explains this pretty well. Note the comment that says "the added force in the general direction he is moving is not considered a factor affecting his spot of landing."

There was a play on MNF last night that was reviewed by replay and ruled as a completed pass due to the force-out rule- in NFHS this wouldn't apply becuase that force was in the same direction the player was already moving.

Of course- he had one foot in anyway.
So am I to assume that, even if the player would have landed in bounds, that if a defender pushes the receiver in the direction of his momentum and that receiver then lands out of bounds it is an incomplete pass? That sounds a little common-senseless.
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Old Tue Aug 19, 2003, 04:18pm
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So am I to assume that, even if the player would have landed in bounds, that if a defender pushes the receiver in the direction of his momentum and that receiver then lands out of bounds it is an incomplete pass? That sounds a little common-senseless.
### For NF, you rule this to be complete.
For NCAA you rule incomplete.
For NFL, I don't have a clue.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2003, 06:11am
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FED - complete if official deems receiver would have gotten 1 foot in without being pushed.
NCAA - incomplete
NFL - complete if official deems BOTH feet would have been in.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2003, 07:45am
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FED - complete if official deems receiver would have gotten 1 foot in without being pushed.
Not entirely true. The defender must change the receiver's direction.
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