Kick play

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

So in Fed if the penalty were accepted, A would repeat the down at B's 25,

Disagree. The foul by K is behind the basic spot (All But One). The enforcement spot is the spot of the foul, not the previous spot.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Disagree. The foul by K is behind the basic spot (All But One). The enforcement spot is the spot of the foul, not the previous spot.

Isn't this a loose ball play?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Suudy

Isn't this a loose ball play?

Yes it is, which means the basic spot is previous spot however the spot of the foul is still behind the basic spot. Therefore, enforcing via all but one, the penalty is enforced from the spot of the foul.

The penalty is enforced from the same spot in NFHS and NCAA.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Yes it is, which means the basic spot is previous spot however the spot of the foul is still behind the basic spot. Therefore, enforcing via all but one, the penalty is enforced from the spot of the foul.

Doh! I somehow glossed over the kick being behind the LOS.

But can we clarify an illegal kick beyond the LOS by A? Two scenarios:

• 1st and 10 at the A20. A10 takes a handoff and runs forward to the A30 where he fumbles. A10 then intentionally kicks the ball at the A32 and the ball goes out of bounds at the A32.

The basic spot is the end of the related run at the A30. The spot of the foul for an illegal kick is at the A32. The basic spot is behind the spot of the foul, so we enforce the IK from the A30.

• 1st and 10 at the A20. A10 takes a handoff and runs forward to the A30 where he fumbles. A10 then intentionally kicks the ball at the A28 and the ball goes out of bounds at the A28.

The basic spot is the end of the related run at the A30. The spot of the foul for an illegal kick is at the A28. The spot of the foul is behind the basic spot so we enforce the IK from the A28.

Yes?