End of Wisconsin - Arizona State game

[hbk314]

No video to post yet, but it should be the biggest story in college football from the weekend.

Someone explain to me how any official on that field ever gets work again.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hbk314

No video to post yet, but it should be the biggest story in college football from the weekend.

Someone explain to me how any official on that field ever gets work again.

Couple things at play. If you put the ball down, you are not down by rule.

Secondly, if the ball is downed, then you do not get to "clock" the ball with less then 3 seconds while the clock is running (New rule).

Either way, justice was done.

Full discloser, my mom went to Wisconsin and I am kind of a fan when they are not playing my first love (Michigan). The Wisconsin QB should be shot for stupidity.

Peace

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Couple things at play. If you put the ball down, you are not down by rule.

Secondly, if the ball is downed, then you do not get to "clock" the ball with less then 3 seconds while the clock is running (New rule).

Either way, justice was done.

Full discloser, my mom went to Wisconsin and I am kind of a fan when they are not playing my first love (Michigan). The Wisconsin QB should be shot for stupidity.

Peace

So no answer then?



The play was over with 15 seconds left when it was blown dead. An Arizona State player laid on top of the ball with 12 seconds left for eight seconds followed by the official refusing to spot the ball.

Justify them ever working again.

[hbk314]

http://twitpic.com/ddk0v6

His knee also does appear to be down, supported by the play being blown dead at that point by the officials.

[APG]

[APG]

As to your question, why is this a fireable offense in your opinion? If the conference deems they didn't follow the proper mechanics, there are other methods of punishment rather than outright firing, for one play.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by APG

As to your question, why is this a fireable offense in your opinion? If the conference deems they didn't follow the proper mechanics, there are other methods of punishment rather than outright firing, for one play.

Other than the infamous Oklahoma-Oregon onside kick game, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a more massive failure in game officiating.

They failed with an official standing on top of the ball to spot it in 14 seconds.

They failed to throw a delay of game flag when a defensive player laid on the ball for 8 seconds.

They just ran off the field as if nothing had happened.

They failed miserably in every aspect of their job. It's not like there was a split-second judgment involved. This involved failure on the entire crew's part.

There's nothing that can be said to defend any of it.



Obviously I'm not expecting them to actually be fired, but if ever an official was going to lose his/her job for on-field performance, this would be it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hbk314

So no answer then?



The play was over with 15 seconds left when it was blown dead. An Arizona State player laid on top of the ball with 12 seconds left for eight seconds followed by the official refusing to spot the ball.

Justify them ever working again.

I gave you an answer, but I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

Fanboy rants often do not work here.

Peace

[ddn]

The officials blew the play dead when A put the ball on the ground. A couple of seconds later, B jumps on the ball and covers it.

If the play had not ended so unusually, would you have allowed B to cover the ball and lay on it, especially given the game situation? Does the unusual end of the play give B more latitude to take advantage of the situation?

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I gave you an answer, but I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

Fanboy rants often do not work here.

Peace

I've refuted every point you made. The officials correctly ruled that Stave took a knee. That happened with 15 seconds left. They then allowed a defensive player to lay on the ball for 7 seconds. They should have flagged him for delay of game, or at the very least stopped the clock to end the confusion. Wisconsin was at the line to spike the ball with 10+ seconds on the clock, so your three second rule doesn't apply either.

It's not a fan boy rant. It's what happened. The officials failed in every aspect of their job. They may as well have been out in the parking lot.

If you're not outraged, you're not understanding what took place.

They had ample opportunity to fix their errors, and instead they just jogged off the field.

[Matt]

This was not a good game for the crew all around. Missing a spot by four feet and a phantom USC somehow got trumped by the debacle of the last play.

[JRutledge]

Outraged by what? A player that does not know how to down the ball?

I have never seen a player do something so silly before. So what am I supposed to be upset by? I am sure the crew never saw such a silly player act as well.

Sorry it is just another Saturday from my point of view.

You keep talking about what the crew did not do but I have not heard what they should have done from your point of view.

Maybe then I might get outraged, but I doubt it.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Couple things at play. If you put the ball down, you are not down by rule.

Secondly, if the ball is downed, then you do not get to "clock" the ball with less then 3 seconds while the clock is running (New rule).

Actually, this isn't quite right. The spike rule is only in effect if the clock is stopped (usually because of a first down) and is going to be started on the RFP.

But that's completely irrelevant to this play.

All I know is that I picked a great time to fly to England and avoid all the sportswriters in Madison who have made me realize that sports journalism is dead and has been completely replaced with opinion stories written by unabashed homers.

Oh, and I also got to miss the local CBS station calling me and asking me for comment, of which I have none, of course.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

Actually, this isn't quite right. The spike rule is only in effect if the clock is stopped (usually because of a first down) and is going to be started on the RFP.

But that's completely irrelevant to this play.

All I know is that I picked a great time to fly to England and avoid all the sportswriters in Madison who have made me realize that sports journalism is dead and has been completely replaced with opinion stories written by unabashed homers.

Oh, and I also got to miss the local CBS station calling me and asking me for comment, of which I have none, of course.

This was the first response, with no video and only seeing a brief highlight before the later in the night. Of course it was irrelevant as it is not what happened on the play.

Peace