End of Wisconsin - Arizona State game

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Couple things at play. If you put the ball down, you are not down by rule.

Secondly, if the ball is downed, then you do not get to "clock" the ball with less then 3 seconds while the clock is running (New rule).

Either way, justice was done.

Full discloser, my mom went to Wisconsin and I am kind of a fan when they are not playing my first love (Michigan). The Wisconsin QB should be shot for stupidity.

Peace

So no answer then?



The play was over with 15 seconds left when it was blown dead. An Arizona State player laid on top of the ball with 12 seconds left for eight seconds followed by the official refusing to spot the ball.

Justify them ever working again.

[hbk314]

http://twitpic.com/ddk0v6

His knee also does appear to be down, supported by the play being blown dead at that point by the officials.

[APG]

[APG]

As to your question, why is this a fireable offense in your opinion? If the conference deems they didn't follow the proper mechanics, there are other methods of punishment rather than outright firing, for one play.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by APG

As to your question, why is this a fireable offense in your opinion? If the conference deems they didn't follow the proper mechanics, there are other methods of punishment rather than outright firing, for one play.

Other than the infamous Oklahoma-Oregon onside kick game, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a more massive failure in game officiating.

They failed with an official standing on top of the ball to spot it in 14 seconds.

They failed to throw a delay of game flag when a defensive player laid on the ball for 8 seconds.

They just ran off the field as if nothing had happened.

They failed miserably in every aspect of their job. It's not like there was a split-second judgment involved. This involved failure on the entire crew's part.

There's nothing that can be said to defend any of it.



Obviously I'm not expecting them to actually be fired, but if ever an official was going to lose his/her job for on-field performance, this would be it.

[hbk314]

http://www.wissports.net/news_articl...rrer_id=939695

[APG]

The defender was on top of the ball for that period of time because he, among with the entire defense, and I'm betting the umpire thought the QB fumbled the ball. The resulting confusion as to what happened on the play meant the defense wasn't going to get a DOG penalty on that play.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by APG

The defender was on top of the ball for that period of time because he, among with the entire defense, and I'm betting the umpire thought the QB fumbled the ball. The resulting confusion as to what happened on the play meant the defense wasn't going to get a DOG penalty on that play.

The play was blown dead with 15 seconds left on the clock. 10 seconds later the defender was finally letting go of the ball. That's way too long to be accepted as mere "confusion."

The very least they should have done would have been to review the play and spot the ball properly with the correct amount of time on the clock.

Wisconsin being denied a game-winning field goal opportunity, whether it from the 15 or the 10 after a DOG penalty, is 100% on the officials, and there's nothing that can be said to change that.

[hbk314]

http://www.sbnation.com/2013/9/15/47...te-officiating


Another good summary.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by hbk314

The play was blown dead with 15 seconds left on the clock. 10 seconds later the defender was finally letting go of the ball. That's way too long to be accepted as mere "confusion."

The very least they should have done would have been to review the play and spot the ball properly with the correct amount of time on the clock.

Wisconsin being denied a game-winning field goal opportunity, whether it from the 15 or the 10 after a DOG penalty, is 100% on the officials, and there's nothing that can be said to change that.

I'm confused as to what question you are really asking.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hbk314

So no answer then?



The play was over with 15 seconds left when it was blown dead. An Arizona State player laid on top of the ball with 12 seconds left for eight seconds followed by the official refusing to spot the ball.

Justify them ever working again.

I gave you an answer, but I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

Fanboy rants often do not work here.

Peace

[ddn]

The officials blew the play dead when A put the ball on the ground. A couple of seconds later, B jumps on the ball and covers it.

If the play had not ended so unusually, would you have allowed B to cover the ball and lay on it, especially given the game situation? Does the unusual end of the play give B more latitude to take advantage of the situation?

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I gave you an answer, but I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

Fanboy rants often do not work here.

Peace

I've refuted every point you made. The officials correctly ruled that Stave took a knee. That happened with 15 seconds left. They then allowed a defensive player to lay on the ball for 7 seconds. They should have flagged him for delay of game, or at the very least stopped the clock to end the confusion. Wisconsin was at the line to spike the ball with 10+ seconds on the clock, so your three second rule doesn't apply either.

It's not a fan boy rant. It's what happened. The officials failed in every aspect of their job. They may as well have been out in the parking lot.

If you're not outraged, you're not understanding what took place.

They had ample opportunity to fix their errors, and instead they just jogged off the field.

[Matt]

This was not a good game for the crew all around. Missing a spot by four feet and a phantom USC somehow got trumped by the debacle of the last play.

[HLin NC]

If you're not outraged, you're not understanding what took place.

Or some of us really don't give a rat's rear end. If it bothers you that badly, call the Big Whatever and fuss at them.