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Old Wed Jan 09, 2013, 05:26pm
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That could be..I know nothing of uploading or sharing video because as an official thats not what we do...thats what the teams do.
More and more officials are uploading video —*but the main difference is that officials upload PLAYS. Only coaches and players want to be able to see the entire game.

A lot of officials are now are using video software on their computers to extract certain plays from games to upload to officiating sites to share with their coordinators and communicate about the play.

You are right that the needs are definitely different —*and I've found that a lot of these sports technology companies are geared only towards coaches and players ... and then add on officials as an afterthought, but with no differentiation in what they offer, even though officials have unique needs and will use the software differently.
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Old Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:42am
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Only coaches and players want to be able to see the entire game.
That isn't necessarily a true statement, Brad. When I do get a video, I sometimes do want to jump to a particular play(s) but at some point I watch the whole thing to evaluate myself and to discuss with other members of the crew.

Dropbox was suggested to me by one of our ministers last night as a way to exchange files. I've heard of it but have not utilized it.
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Old Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:45am
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Good point ... I was thinking more along the lines of sharing with other officials, but you are right that many officials want to review some of their games in entirety.
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Old Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:58pm
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With HUDL there will be an administrative account. You can create multiple administrators. When a coach shares the video with you each play during a game is a separate clip. Now you can play the whole game if you like or you can skip to a certain play. What I do for our chapter is I will view each game and I will find all the fouls that are on the foul reports that the crews submit. You can add notes to the clips and organize them how you like. The video will play in a screen at the top and on the bottom is a spreadsheet type screen at the bottom where you can see each play. You can put each play into different categories. For example my spreadsheet will be something like.

Play Type: Pass, Result: Interception, Foul: Holding

Then after viewing all the video you can then create 1 video with all the holding fouls called during that week or month. It's very simple and only takes about 3 mouse clicks to create the video. You can highlight the player on the video, draw arrows, etc. You can then share it with whoever you like.
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:07am
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That isn't necessarily a true statement, Brad. When I do get a video, I sometimes do want to jump to a particular play(s) but at some point I watch the whole thing to evaluate myself and to discuss with other members of the crew.

Dropbox was suggested to me by one of our ministers last night as a way to exchange files. I've heard of it but have not utilized it.
True, and most videos we get have all dead ball time edited out. As an R, I would love to be able to see my RFP, penalty signals, enforcements, etc. that occur between plays.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:23pm
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For the two years prior to this, our D-3 conference used Game Tape Exchange. This year they switched to HUDL. Both have advantages over the other. However, overall, I think HUDL is the better product. It has a few more tools that one can use to break down individual plays.
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:55am
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So far, so good.

I signed up for the Exchange package, which only allows the exchange of video, no bells & whistles. The first set of videos I got was from when I went by one of our local HS and spoke to an assistant whose father is one of our umpires. He sat at his laptop and sent me 4 or 5 games quickly. He also went over the spread sheet and features the higher levels have.

I can see where the features might have some additional utility for us but a quick cost/benefit analysis by me indicated we're ok with what I'm trying out for now.

The next three videos were from games I worked where the DVD was never returned or I don't even bother trying anymore. I sent e-mails to them advising we were trying the program out and asked for their help. The head coach of the school I've given up on responded the next morning with his clip.
That indicated to me I've been dealing with the wrong staff members in the past.

The last two I utilized the actual exchange feature where I loaded a 30 second clip of the "official's dance" and submitted to two schools I worked late in the season that we had no video on. An assistant coach from the Regional final I worked responded last night!

I'm quite happy with the results so far- once the file is unzipped it is in an mp4 format so it transfers easily to my iPad via iTunes so I can use my Replay Booth app (lot cheaper) to cut and telestrate.

A group of us meets on Thursday to begin review and I hope I can get their support to steer our supervisor to purchase it or reimburse me.
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:23pm
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Not sure if this would work or not:

Have one universal email address / login for officials and have it act like a college recruiter, basically. All the schools in a conference share their film with the "officials" login, so all officials can use that login to see their games. You wouldn't get the fancy functionality, but you can at least download the game and mess with it that way. Better than the DVD system we have now.

Would that work?
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:53pm
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Not sure if this would work or not:

Have one universal email address / login for officials and have it act like a college recruiter, basically. All the schools in a conference share their film with the "officials" login, so all officials can use that login to see their games. You wouldn't get the fancy functionality, but you can at least download the game and mess with it that way. Better than the DVD system we have now.

Would that work?
At the point you provide a public "universal" guest login, they might as well post it to YouTube, because that's exactly where the video will all end up. The purpose of having logins for individual people is to have some verification of who is getting access to your material, even if you aren't too discerning about who all sees it, you at least can know who accessed it. You can also insert digital watermarks that are unique to the user, and possibly other criteria, so that you can track when video ends up on unauthorized sites. You lose that completely if you make a single login public knowledge.
Someone will transcode it, publish the video to a third-party site, and now you've lost what little control you had over your content. Lose control over your content, and you lose control of your revenue stream.
If Hudl sets up an account class for officials, there will be methods to authenticate the official's status with organizations, and there will likely be digital watermarking of content in place, if it isn't already.
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Old Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:21pm
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Not sure if this would work or not:

Have one universal email address / login for officials and have it act like a college recruiter, basically. All the schools in a conference share their film with the "officials" login, so all officials can use that login to see their games. You wouldn't get the fancy functionality, but you can at least download the game and mess with it that way. Better than the DVD system we have now.

Would that work?
You don't need to do that. A school can create a recruiter link and send it to one member of your crew. With that link anyone can create their own free login to view that particular video. If you already have a Hudl account you can use it to access the video. You are correct though...no major functionality other than viewing and downloading the entire game. You can also have the school create a download link and send that you to. You will download one WMV vile and would have to use your own software to slice and dice plays.
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