Hudl- any officials utilizing it?

[JasonTX]

Our chapter signed up for the $800 per year package. We received around 95% of all games worked by our chapter. What I do is email the coaches and they will send me the game. From their I can review the film, make clips, highlight plays, circle plays, draw arrows. It's pretty much endless with what you can do. I can tell you that from day 1 to day 30 I was able to see the improvement from our officials. From my critiques to their own self evaluations it was very much a great bargain. Let me know if you have any questions.

[bisonlj]

We looked into it for our state association last year but they were quoting us $3k for our "team" since we would have over 800 "team members". We also would have to exchange film with schools which I don't believe is true. They really need to add an officiating option since our use of video is slightly different than schools.

[HLin NC]

bison- from what I read on their website, they were quoting you the top of the line premium package. The basic is $200- you can just exchange for the season, no bells and whistles. Youth leagues have a $29 per month option.

That top end stuff is really paying for gobs of server space to store the videos.

I questioned the "exchange issue" with an online rep today from Hudl. He said that wasn't necessary for officials (obviously, we have nothing to trade). However there is no method presently via Hudl to request a video from a school in our one way status. You've either ahve got to contact the school or have prior arrangements to have them let you access it. That is the rub- I'm suggesting our RSO create a formal agreement with the area schools who are on it to either feed it to the referees over the weekend as our WH's have a conference call on Sunday night. They could then distribute on to the crew(s). Alternatively, let the RSO access it and then forward on to the R's or the whole crew.

What would really be nice would be to tie it all into The Arbiter someway.

Presently what I do is rip the game DVD to my PC, convert to QuickTime and then transfer via iTunes to my iPad where I then use the ReplayBooth app to cut clips. I can then e-mail the clips or create a playlist to show at meetings on a projector. I can telestrate with the app also. I also upload the game to an unlisted YouTube channel and e-mail that link to the crew so they can have it as quickly as I can get it to them.

This is all very time consuming, particularly the format conversion. Add in the old guys who just want a copy of the DVD, which takes a lot of time to make on a laptop, and I spend more time creating then I do breaking down and evaluating.

I just figure there's a better way.

Either way though, it appears I'm dependent on a coach getting a hard copy or digital access for me to make it all happen. This can be the hardest part.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

bison- from what I read on their website, they were quoting you the top of the line premium package. The basic is $200- you can just exchange for the season, no bells and whistles. Youth leagues have a $29 per month option.

That top end stuff is really paying for gobs of server space to store the videos.

I questioned the "exchange issue" with an online rep today from Hudl. He said that wasn't necessary for officials (obviously, we have nothing to trade). However there is no method presently via Hudl to request a video from a school in our one way status. You've either ahve got to contact the school or have prior arrangements to have them let you access it. That is the rub- I'm suggesting our RSO create a formal agreement with the area schools who are on it to either feed it to the referees over the weekend as our WH's have a conference call on Sunday night. They could then distribute on to the crew(s). Alternatively, let the RSO access it and then forward on to the R's or the whole crew.

What would really be nice would be to tie it all into The Arbiter someway.

Presently what I do is rip the game DVD to my PC, convert to QuickTime and then transfer via iTunes to my iPad where I then use the ReplayBooth app to cut clips. I can then e-mail the clips or create a playlist to show at meetings on a projector. I can telestrate with the app also. I also upload the game to an unlisted YouTube channel and e-mail that link to the crew so they can have it as quickly as I can get it to them.

This is all very time consuming, particularly the format conversion. Add in the old guys who just want a copy of the DVD, which takes a lot of time to make on a laptop, and I spend more time creating then I do breaking down and evaluating.

I just figure there's a better way.

Either way though, it appears I'm dependent on a coach getting a hard copy or digital access for me to make it all happen. This can be the hardest part.

The way our college conference exchanges video with a couple schools is we have a 30-second clip of a play we send in exchange for the entire game. For our conference games they have some kind of community space with all the schools and the officials as a separate team. Every school puts their video in the central pool and anyone can share anyone's games. Our supervisor picks one of the videos and shares it with his team.

That wouldn't work for HS since we don't have associations that would only with local schools. It would be 165 crews and 320 schools. The schools would never agree to have everyone access everyone else's videos. The top account was quoted because exchanged video is considered "practice and scout" video. Assuming each game is about an hour of raw video (sideline and end zone), the Silver account would only give you 10 games.

If we were only a local association with 15 or 20 crews they might be more willing to work with us on a smaller account but because we would have all 165 crews in the state they would only quote us the highest account. All of this was collected by someone else so I would like to talk to them myself. There has to be a way for us to do it for a smaller price.

[Brad]

We have a great video system for the college conferences and high school chapters that use our scheduling and chapter management software. You can upload plays, do "You Make the Call" surveys, and have officials and coaches upload plays as well.

Everything works directly viewable on mobile as well as within your browser, or you can download the video for offline viewing.

Would love to hear from anyone about what features you would be looking for in regards to video for officials.

The one common denominator that I have noticed with these sports video programs is that they are geared towards the players and coaches ... officials are then added on as an after thought. So, they don't really do things the way we want them too.

Any feedback, thoughts, questions, comments, etc. are welcome — post here in this thread and/or email me directly at [email protected]

(FYI — for those that do not know because I don't usually post on the Football board ... it is me and my company, BlueZebra Sports, that runs Officiating.com and this forum)

- Brad

[HLin NC]

[QUOTE=Brad;870779]We have a great video system for the college conferences and high school chapters that use our scheduling and chapter management software. You can upload plays, do "You Make the Call" surveys, and have officials and coaches upload plays as well.

Everything works directly viewable on mobile as well as within your browser, or you can download the video for offline viewing.

Would love to hear from anyone about what features you would be looking for in regards to video for officials.

The one common denominator that I have noticed with these sports video programs is that they are geared towards the players and coaches ... officials are then added on as an after thought. So, they don't really do things the way we want them too.

Any feedback, thoughts, questions, comments, etc. are welcome — post here in this thread and/or email me directly at [email protected]

Here's the problem Brad. We will be the afterthought, unless a state organization forces the schools to cooperate. The system I would envision would be a central repository of video where that team, their opponents, and the officials who worked that game had access to that particular game. Telestration and bookmarking would be key assets to the program.
Server space and security would be the main issues but I'm sure can be worked out.

Coaches are a paranoid lot and don't want their game video in the hands of others. Unfortunately for them, modern technology has made that attitude obsolete. Anyone could sit in the upper seats of the stands and film a game with a relatively inexpensive camera. They can then take that video and distribute via any number of methods, including YouTube. You would have to get the older ones out of that mindset.

Your issue will be overcoming already established programs for video exchange and scheduling. While merging them into one powerful set of software would be cool, getting schools to want to change with the only selling point being that the officials can have access too will not work. They could care less.


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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Coaches are a paranoid lot and don't want their game video in the hands of others. Unfortunately for them, modern technology has made that attitude obsolete. Anyone could sit in the upper seats of the stands and film a game with a relatively inexpensive camera. They can then take that video and distribute via any number of methods, including YouTube. You would have to get the older ones out of that mindset.

Your issue will be overcoming already established programs for video exchange and scheduling. While merging them into one powerful set of software would be cool, getting schools to want to change with the only selling point being that the officials can have access too will not work. They could care less.

Many of the college teams have rules where they have to share their video and systems like Hudl has allowed that to happen. And football this is more acceptable to share than basketball for sure. We get video all the time in football all the time but it is like pulling teeth on the basketball side.

Peace

[bcl1127]

A couple of teams around here in Chicago used HUDL and rather than send us a DVD of the game film, they gave us access to the HUDL game film. Don't know how it worked, but we just got an e-mail saying that we had access to the games.

[eyezen]

On the basketball side of things...in one conference I work the GLVC makes all games involving all conference teams available through a similar site called gametapeexchange.com

It has an official's section and our supervisor provided us with a username and password that we use to access the official's section.

One would think that HUDL would be able to make it as easy, if nothing else to stay competitive.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by JasonTX

Our chapter signed up for the $800 per year package. We received around 95% of all games worked by our chapter.

How many games is that approximately? Just curious...

Originally Posted by JasonTX

From their I can review the film, make clips, highlight plays, circle plays, draw arrows.

That is cool ... I have heard of them, but haven't really used their software — need to check them out.