Lockout over!!!

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

We should all thank Charles Barkley.

I would have liked to have a nickel for everytime Barkley said, "That's thurrebull", after the game.

I do have a question though. Years ago, the NFL made a team that scored a TD on the last play of game still attempt the extra point. I wonder if it had anything to do with the point spread or the over/under bets.

The end of the Green Bay/Seattle game would been even crazier if the Packers block the point after, and ran it back for the safety to tie the game.

But if I was the coach of the Seahawks, I would have gone for two, and took a knee. However the NFL didn't have the two point conversion rule back then, and the play was dead immediately after blocked kick.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I do have a question though.

Apparently, you don't.

The end of the Green Bay/Seattle game would been even crazier if the Packers block the point after, and ran it back for the safety to tie the game.

Oh dear. Wanna rethink that? 3 mistakes in that short a sentence. Impressive.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Apparently, you don't.
Oh dear. Wanna rethink that? 3 mistakes in that short a sentence. Impressive.

I was actually harking back to some old rules that were apparently in place back it the 60's. I was aware that Seattle didn't attempt a try after. I thought maybe it had changed when the NFL put in the two point conversion try, and/or overtime.


But then again they had the rule where you couldn't wear white tape to hold up the baseball leggings in which socks had to worn over the stirrups. They had to use what looked to be clear shipping tape to hold them up. What was that all about?

I don't know all the rules, but then again...........that's best reason I have to ask questions.

[Adam]

I thought Seattle did, in fact, kick the extra point in this game.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Adam

I thought Seattle did, in fact, kick the extra point in this game.

They did...after about the 5-7 minutes it took for the league representative to tell the officials the try had to be attempted and they had to get 11 players from Green Bay back on the field.

[Texas Aggie]

Did anyone notice that the replacement officials didn't have their position (SJ, U, etc.) on their shirt, but the regular ones do? I'm wondering if guys were moved around some and/or the regular guys are using last year's equipment.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

Did anyone notice that the replacement officials didn't have their position (SJ, U, etc.) on their shirt, but the regular ones do? I'm wondering if guys were moved around some and/or the regular guys are using last year's equipment.

Mike Pierra answered this question a couple of weeks ago...they didn't have position letters exactly for the first reason you're thinking...officials weren't "locked" into a position and would allow the league to switch positions if need be.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I would have liked to have a nickel for everytime Barkley said, "That's thurrebull", after the game.

I do have a question though. Years ago, the NFL made a team that scored a TD on the last play of game still attempt the extra point. I wonder if it had anything to do with the point spread or the over/under bets.

The end of the Green Bay/Seattle game would been even crazier if the Packers block the point after, and ran it back for the safety to tie the game.

But if I was the coach of the Seahawks, I would have gone for two, and took a knee. However the NFL didn't have the two point conversion rule back then, and the play was dead immediately after blocked kick.

By NFL rule, if the last play in regulation is a touchdown, the try must be attempted. If this occurred in OT, the try is not attempted. Also, under NFL rules, the try is over as soon as the defense gains possession of the ball and the defense can not score during a try.

Basically, Seattle had absolutely nothing to worry about during the try.

[silverpie]

Originally Posted by APG

By NFL rule, if the last play in regulation is a touchdown, the try must be attempted. If this occurred in OT, the try is not attempted. Also, under NFL rules, the try is over as soon as the defense gains possession of the ball and the defense can not score during a try.

And even in the codes (NCAA and Canadian) that do allow the defense to score during a conversion, a "safety" is only worth one. To get two requires what would be a touchdown on a normal play.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by silverpie

And even in the codes (NCAA and Canadian) that do allow the defense to score during a conversion, a "safety" is only worth one. To get two requires what would be a touchdown on a normal play.

A Canadian defensive safety. I'll have to look that one up!

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

A Canadian defensive safety. I'll have to look that one up!

I watched some of a CFL game not long ago. My memory isn't too fresh, but I believe one team was down by one point, and was attempting a field goal, don't remember how long, but doesn't distance count as to the amount of points given. Let's cut back to the chase though. The kicking team missed the attempt, and defensive team had to run the missed kick out of the end zone (or the vast wasteland as I like to call it) to avoid the kicking team getting one point, and tying the score.

My details are sketchy at best.

Correct me if I'm wrong, or even tell me if I got anything right......

[paulsonj72]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I would have liked to have a nickel for everytime Barkley said, "That's thurrebull", after the game.

I do have a question though. Years ago, the NFL made a team that scored a TD on the last play of game still attempt the extra point. I wonder if it had anything to do with the point spread or the over/under bets.

The end of the Green Bay/Seattle game would been even crazier if the Packers block the point after, and ran it back for the safety to tie the game.

But if I was the coach of the Seahawks, I would have gone for two, and took a knee. However the NFL didn't have the two point conversion rule back then, and the play was dead immediately after blocked kick.

Also deep in the playoff tiebreakers is point differential. So an extra point COULD theoretically be the difference between making the playoffs or not. However, since the CURRENT system for tiebreakers has been used it has never been used. I can only think of 1 time when it was used and that was in 1979 when Chicago got the 2nd NFC Wild Card berth by better net points in all games. Baiscally that was the point diffferential in all games thar year and the Bears won it by 4 points. On that day they were a -33 to the Redskins going into play but beat the Cardinals by 36 and Washington lost to Dallas by 1 for the finals differential.

[tmagan]

I know college basketball officials are independent contractors. But college football officials work for a specific conference, so how come they are not unionized?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tmagan

I know college basketball officials are independent contractors. But college football officials work for a specific conference, so how come they are not unionized?

They are still independent contractors. They are paid like independent contractors and they are assigned games like independent contractors. They can be replaced anytime and often are replaced.

Peace

[Texas Aggie]

Its difficult to unionize when you have multiple employers. NFL officials can be hired and fired based solely on the discretion of the NFL, just like the control college conferences have. The difference is the multitude of college conferences on all levels of college basketball -- NCAA D1, 2, 3, NAIA, and Juco. There are officials who work all of those classifications (some even for both genders). Essentially, collective bargaining wouldn't work for the Big 10 solely (for example), and conferences colluding to bargain collectively would bring up sticky legal issues.