Restablishing in-bounds position

[batreferee]

The force of the strip knocked the runner out of bounds and there was no IW.

[MD Longhorn]

Here's what's insane about this play... we talked about this a few months back.

In both plays, the runner is not forced out of bounds, and goes out on his own ... or was forced out but stays out of bounds longer than the official deems necessary and did not return "immediately". In both plays, the ball rolls forward 20 yards and is recovered by the runner.

A) The runner steps in bounds just prior to recovering the ball.
B) The runner never steps in bounds and is still contacting out of bounds when he recovers the ball.

In A) IP and a 15 yard penalty.
In B) No IP.

This result is very odd to me.

[Welpe]

That just confirms I like the NCAA rules about this situation much more. At least you don't have to deal with the Fed rule either, Mike.

[maven]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Here's what's insane about this play... we talked about this a few months back.

In both plays, the runner is not forced out of bounds, and goes out on his own ... or was forced out but stays out of bounds longer than the official deems necessary and did not return "immediately". In both plays, the ball rolls forward 20 yards and is recovered by the runner.

A) The runner steps in bounds just prior to recovering the ball.
B) The runner never steps in bounds and is still contacting out of bounds when he recovers the ball.

In A) IP and a 15 yard penalty.
In B) No IP.

This result is very odd to me.

If the runner intentionally goes out of bounds and, as in your play (B), intentionally contacts the ball while he's OOB, that is IP under 9-6-2b.

I believe this rule changed in 2011.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by maven

If the runner intentionally goes out of bounds and, as in your play (B), intentionally contacts the ball while he's OOB, that is IP under 9-6-2b.

I believe this rule changed in 2011.

So what about:

Kickoff goes outside the hash and towards the sideline. R1 heads over, steps out of bounds, and touches the ball.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Adam

So what about:

Kickoff goes outside the hash and towards the sideline. R1 heads over, steps out of bounds, and touches the ball.

That's the play that motivated the rule change. Under the previous rule, R was getting a cheap kick OOB flag for that play.

[WestCoaster]

Originally Posted by batreferee

The force of the strip knocked the runner out of bounds and there was no IW.

There you go. So if the runner returns at first opportunity and recovers it, no foul.
Maven, why so bellicose? I was just trying to to clarify what really happened.