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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:56am
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take a knee?

Tom Coughlin has harsh words for Greg Schiano after Giants beat Buccaneers | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:10pm
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Another clown with the "play til you hear the whistle" mindset
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:41pm
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Sounds more like a "play while the ball is live" mindset to me.
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:00pm
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which is fine, provided both teams are "playing"
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:14pm
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I saw nothing wrong with the play. Shame on the Giants to think the other team is just going to give up when they still have an outside chance to make something happen - legally!
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:25pm
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I saw nothing wrong with the play. Shame on the Giants to think the other team is just going to give up when they still have an outside chance to make something happen - legally!
NFL does not have as many "unwritten rules" as MLB, but this is one of them. Perhaps you saw nothing wrong with the play because you're applying only the written rules.

Players police the unwritten rules, and so I encourage the O-linemen and QB for the Bucs to protect themselves if they have a victory formation this season.
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With the money that these athletes can earn, you play to win the game.
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 02:05pm
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There's a reason that a fight almost broke out after what Tampa did. It went against the accepted practice in the NFL...you watch any number of games in the NFL and you won't see another team do this.

Completely legal rules wise, but against the unwritten rules.
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Why should a team be expected to quit playing if there's still time left on the clock?
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:03pm
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Why should a team be expected to quit playing if there's still time left on the clock?
Because it's been an accepted practice for years.

One team tells the other team they are taking a knee and they honor the notification.......

Show me an example of it happening right before halftime. (you can't)
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Because it's been an accepted practice for years.

One team tells the other team they are taking a knee and they honor the notification.......

Show me an example of it happening right before halftime. (you can't)
No, but you have the opposite - Randall Cunningham faking taking a knee and throwing a TD right before halftime.
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:07pm
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Why should a team be expected to quit playing if there's still time left on the clock?
Why should a guy who hits a home run start running immediately rather than wait till the ball's out of sight and admire his achievement?

That's how they play the game. It's different from college. None of us has to like it.
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Chargers/KC last year. SD trying to run out the lock and they fumble the snap.
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 04:30pm
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No, but you have the opposite - Randall Cunningham faking taking a knee and throwing a TD right before halftime.
Are you talking about the time he took two knees then threw a long pass while up 30-20?

Just as classy.....
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Old Mon Sep 17, 2012, 04:53pm
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Are you talking about the time he took two knees then threw a long pass while up 30-20?

Just as classy.....
If he was only up 10 points at the half, then he's smart to try to pad his lead. It doesn't take long for those ten points to evaporate, especially if you're kicking to start the 3rd.

Victory formation started as a way for the offense to eliminate as much as possible the risk of losing due to a fumble when they don't need the yardage to win the game. "Taking a knee" at halftime is completely discretionary and should NEVER be assumed. In the NFL, "taking a knee" should be afforded the same opportunities as any other play.

I can buy protecting kids in HS, but when we're talking about millionaires with incredible athletic prowess, don't just let them play, MAKE them play.
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