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[BktBallRef]

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Play 1
A 1/10 on the B10. A's pass is intercepted in the end zone where the player is tackled. After the interception and before the tackle, B55 clips at the B2.

In our meeting the other night we discussed play 1. We decided that the ruling was B's ball 1/10 from the B10. Reason: The final result of the play was a touchback and regarding plays that result in a touchback, penalties are enforced from the succeeding spot. Since the penalty was marked off from the B20, that is how we got to the 10.
We did not enforce from the B2, as in the all-but-one principal, because the all-but-one principle only applies to fouls by the offense (Penalty enforcement immediately following Rule 10).

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Play #1, as you said, is enforced from the succeeding spot, 10-4-4d. But since the spot of the foul is behind the succeeding spot, the penalty is from the 2, half the distance, 1st & 10 from the 1.

Whoever said that the all but one principle does not apply to the defense is sadly mistaken. A foul by the defense behind or beyond the basic spot or a foul by the offense beyond the basic spot will be enforced from the basic spot, hence, ALL. A foul by the offense behind the basic spot will be enforced from the spot of the foul, hence, the ONE.

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Play 2
A 1/10 on the 50. B intercepts and returns the ball back to the 50. During the runback, B55 clips at the B20.

Well, if this is the case, then play 2 would also be enforced from the succeeding spot. Because of the all but one. To further complicate matters, the offense remains the offense and the defense remains the defense until the next ready for play (Rule 2, Definitions) so we can't say that the defense becomes the offense because of a change of possession.

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Sorry , you're mistaken. The all but one does apply. Since the team with the ball fouled behind the run, the penalty is enforced from the spot of the foul. What if B had scored a TD? Using your theory, where would you have spotted the ball? See? It doesn't work.

You're confusing the offense and defense sitch. If there is a change of possession, the defense is now the offense. The offense is the team which is in possession of the ball. The opponent is the defense. A is the team which puts the ball in play. The opponent is B. Re-read 2-42.

It sounds like you guys need a good clinic leader to help you out with some of these things. Good luck to you!

[This message has been edited by BktBallRef (edited September 10, 2000).]