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Old Thu Nov 17, 2011, 10:14am
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I wasn't there; however, on paper this sounds like a good call.
May sound good, but does it look good?

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Old Thu Nov 17, 2011, 10:31am
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Wristcoach on belt? Is that legal?
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Old Thu Nov 17, 2011, 10:43am
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Wristcoach on belt? Is that legal?
Not in a FED game, but this wasn't FED ball.
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Old Thu Nov 17, 2011, 10:56am
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Wristcoach on belt? Is that legal?
Not under the Federation Rules, but not sure about NCAA.
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Old Thu Nov 17, 2011, 10:59am
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That is why I asked, not sure of the ncaa rule? Thanks.
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Old Thu Nov 17, 2011, 10:55am
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May sound good, but does it look good?

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I think the difference between the two was where the action started and what the BJ could see. the one that was flagged the hand goes way up at the 7 yard line, no one could miss it. The one that was not flagged, the player raised his arm at the two and did not get it that high until just before the endzone, so maybe the BJ could not see it.

In my opinion, I would not flag this in HS under Federation rules. It seems like the NCAA bad a big deal about this exact type of thing, so maybe these officials are instructed to have zero tolerance of raising the hand before the goal line (I have no clue) but I think if you flag one, you better darn well be sure that you get all of them in the game.

If you are looking to why one was flagged and the other was not, maybe my original comments make some sense, maybe not. I doubt the official was "picking on" just one team.
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Old Thu Nov 17, 2011, 11:09am
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I think the difference between the two was where the action started and what the BJ could see. the one that was flagged the hand goes way up at the 7 yard line, no one could miss it. The one that was not flagged, the player raised his arm at the two and did not get it that high until just before the endzone, so maybe the BJ could not see it.

In my opinion, I would not flag this in HS under Federation rules. It seems like the NCAA bad a big deal about this exact type of thing, so maybe these officials are instructed to have zero tolerance of raising the hand before the goal line (I have no clue) but I think if you flag one, you better darn well be sure that you get all of them in the game.

If you are looking to why one was flagged and the other was not, maybe my original comments make some sense, maybe not. I doubt the official was "picking on" just one team.
If you really want to parse both plays, they both ran for exactly 3 steps with their hand raised before they reached the endzone. I thought the one that wasn't flagged was the "worse" of the two as the runner looked back at a closing defender before he put his hand in the air. That said, I wouldn't have flagged either action.
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Old Thu Nov 17, 2011, 11:43am
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Question from a Coach...on the second play, is the block by the motioning wingback a legal block under Texas (NCAA) rules? Under NF rules, it would not be a legal block?
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Old Thu Nov 17, 2011, 11:50am
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Question from a Coach...on the second play, is the block by the motioning wingback a legal block under Texas (NCAA) rules? Under NF rules, it would not be a legal block?
It's not legal under either rule set. Under NCAA, that back is restricted to blocking below the waist toward his adjacent sideline. The block was towards the far sideline.
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Old Thu Nov 17, 2011, 12:21pm
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It's not legal under either rule set. Under NCAA, that back is restricted to blocking below the waist toward his adjacent sideline. The block was towards the far sideline.
And in NFHS rules, this is an easy BBW call.
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Old Thu Nov 17, 2011, 02:59pm
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And in NFHS rules, this is an easy BBW call.
That's what I thought...it seems like a really, really obvious call to me sitting in my office chair. Not sure why a crew would let something that blatant go and then flag the finger point later.
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