Roughing the kicker....

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

If it's not kickable from that position, I think he'd be down as it's no longer placed for kicking.

Well, that's what I thought, but others are saying the condition of placing the ball for a kick needs to be satisfied only for a moment, and then he's not down later even if one or more of those conditions no longer apply.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Well, that's what I thought, but others are saying the condition of placing the ball for a kick needs to be satisfied only for a moment, and then he's not down later even if one or more of those conditions no longer apply.

But your conditioning what he is doing based on the continued presence of a potential kicker, who is only required to be there at the snap, whereas, I'm conditioning it only on him ceasing to hold the ball for a kick without rising.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

But your conditioning what he is doing based on the continued presence of a potential kicker, who is only required to be there at the snap, whereas, I'm conditioning it only on him ceasing to hold the ball for a kick without rising.

With the rule written as it is, I don't see any reason to read either one as a continuing condition and not the other.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

With the rule written as it is, I don't see any reason to read either one as a continuing condition and not the other.

I must respectfully disagree.

[JMUplayer]

I can't pull the exact time because youtube blocked here at work but it's roughly 1/2 way to 2/3rd into it.

Riverheads vs Page County Football Highlights - YouTube

[wisref2]

That's just good defense (and a poor snap) - I got nothing.

I also got a no call on the block in the back along the sideline a few plays earlier.

[CT1]

There's an attempted defensive BBW at 2:29 -- watch the MLB.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by wisref2

That's just good defense (and a poor snap) - I got nothing.

I also got a no call on the block in the back along the sideline a few plays earlier.

Yup, that's a side block. And the PAT was a poor snap and no foul.