Scrimmage Kick (FG) exception

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Recovering a muffed snap with the knee still on the ground is legal and the ball is live (4-2-2 EXCEPTION 1). The holder may rise and throw a pass, so the score is good. Dead ball FM foul can be enforced on the try or the kickoff.

Live ball llegal batting on A2 (9-7-3). Dead ball PF facemask on B (9-4-3 h). Enforce both. Same down. Same distance.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by InsideTheStripe

Live ball llegal batting on A2 (9-7-3). Dead ball PF facemask on B (9-4-3 h). Enforce both. Same down. Same distance.

Good thinking: I couldn't tell from the OP whether the kicker's contact with the ball was intentional, but if it was that would be an illegal bat.

If you're going to enforce both, you'll end up at the same spot only if the illegal batting takes the ball outside the 30YL. Otherwise, the FM penalty will be enforced half the distance.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by InsideTheStripe

Live ball llegal batting on A2 (9-7-3). Dead ball PF facemask on B (9-4-3 h). Enforce both. Same down. Same distance.

It's not a dead ball personal foul based on the OP. The tackle was by the facemask so it's a live ball foul. The penalties cancel and we replay the try.

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

It's not a dead ball personal foul based on the OP. The tackle was by the facemask so it's a live ball foul. The penalties cancel and we replay the try.

The ball becomes dead on the score. Without seeing the play it's impossible to determine whether the foul was live ball/dead ball. I was envisioning a take down by the facemask after clear possession had been established. If the facemask occurred while he was still gaining possession, I'd agree with the live ball foul.