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Canned Heat Fri Sep 23, 2011 03:35pm

bigjohn:


the rule says, " held" so that his forward progress is stopped.
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1) At what point was the QB "held"....even for a split second...? He was spinning out of the tackle, and almost escaped. I can almost assure you that you and your crew would have the record for IW's if you ever wore the stripes, judging by your stance here.

2) Again....would someone please start a badminton thread so BJ can apply some real insight to something.

3) Suppose we had a HC tackle at the goal line too BJ...? Shoot us some insight. Your comments are better than the Sunday comics.

Zebraman79 Sat Sep 24, 2011 02:32am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 789318)
I disagree. Neither of his knees touched the ground before he threw the ball.

I also wouldn't rule that forward progress was stopped. Mike Carey properly let Eli Manning play through an in-the grasp situation that is now called among the best non-calls in Super Bowl history.

I agree great no call on the Miracle play!! Mike and Don Carey support our local association with instructional advice and come to our annual officials banquet every year. We are very fortunate that these gentlemen take the time to help our program.

As for Big John I think he is most definitley a troll

JasonTX Sat Sep 24, 2011 02:28pm

How can anyone say that the pass was thrown to avoid loss of yardage? If I am looking at the right video, it appears to me that the pass was thrown to an area occupied by an eligible receiver, and caught by that receiver. That's one of the ways to avoid a foul, right? Of course I'm no NF official, but NCAA that takes away IG when you get the ball to the area of a receiver.

Texas Aggie Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:09pm

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you could make a case for ball being dead before the pass,
No, you can't. There's argument and advocacy, and then there's stupidity. Don't confuse them.

Forksref Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:29pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 789318)
I disagree. Neither of his knees touched the ground before he threw the ball.

I also wouldn't rule that forward progress was stopped. Mike Carey properly let Eli Manning play through an in-the grasp situation that is now called among the best non-calls in Super Bowl history.

I think Mike Carey ran to the wrong goal line to set up for a kickoff today. The camera caught him running the other way with an embarrassed smirk on his face. Even the top dogs have brain cramps sometimes.

JugglingReferee Mon Sep 26, 2011 03:38am

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Originally Posted by Forksref (Post 789766)
I think Mike Carey ran to the wrong goal line to set up for a kickoff today. The camera caught him running the other way with an embarrassed smirk on his face. Even the top dogs have brain cramps sometimes.

When we do that in our local games here, the accepted mechanic is to pick up the piece of glass on the ground, so safety sake. :D


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