Fighting result in postseason ban

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

6 ejections for the year or 3 ejections or fighting (whether one incident or 2 or 3 separate incidents) results in a playoff ban.

How would you feel about the team being penalized if a majority or all of the substitutes and coaches came onto the field?

Hmmmm...so basically a "brawl". I guess in my warped little mind that is a different scenario than one where two guys start going at it and two others on the field get involved and those three get tossed. If the whole sideline pours onto the field then we deserve whatever the punishment is.

Had a situation a few years back where one of my players got absolutely decleated from behind about 5 seconds after the whistle. He, his older brother, and their cousin all went after the other kid. All 3 got tossed (along with 4 or 5 of the other team). So that would have knocked us out of the playoffs there??? And the other team would have been knocked out also?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Hmmmm...so basically a "brawl". I guess in my warped little mind that is a different scenario than one where two guys start going at it and two others on the field get involved and those three get tossed. If the whole sideline pours onto the field then we deserve whatever the punishment is.

And that's exactly what happened in all three games. It's very difficult in football to eject bench personnel for coming on the field in football, since you could have up to 22 substitutions after any play. Who's to say who was entering the field legally and who wasn't? It's just flat out difficult to know who should/shouldn't be on the field.

So while the officiating crews didn't penalize anyone except those who fought, there was plenty of video evidence showing the benches clearing. I believe all of the school systems involved took additional disciplinary action against individuals who left the sidelien.

Had a situation a few years back where one of my players got absolutely decleated from behind about 5 seconds after the whistle. He, his older brother, and their cousin all went after the other kid. All 3 got tossed (along with 4 or 5 of the other team). So that would have knocked us out of the playoffs there??? And the other team would have been knocked out also?

Yes, both would have been done.

I don't know what the answer is but I believe there has to be some consequence for the school and the program when this type of thing happens. Otherwise, there's no real incentive in trying to be proactive in preventing it.

But I would really rathr have rules that might be overly stringent than have the mess they'v got going on in WVa.

New restraining order would halt AAA football championship

Incidentally, the NCHSAA has NEVER lost a court battle in one of these situations.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I don't know what the answer is but I believe there has to be some consequence for the school and the program when this type of thing happens. Otherwise, there's no real incentive in trying to be proactive in preventing it.

But I would really rathr have rules that might be overly stringent than have the mess they'v got going on in WVa.

New restraining order would halt AAA football championship

Incidentally, the NCHSAA has NEVER lost a court battle in one of these situations.

Wow! That is really ridiculous...

I understand what you are saying. And I actually agree that stricter punishments are more effective than lesser ones. If WVa had a rule like yours, they would not be in this mess.