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[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And all of you need to understand that this is a progression...the first time the local association bucked the State, they were warned. The second time, there were meetings. The third time...it goes on. The loss of possible play-off berths is a progressive consequence. They knew it and bucked the State anyway.

Look, our local football and basketball associations in this part of the State do the pink whistles and blue flags and all of thet - but we go through the proper channels and get the proper waivers. These clowns have been telling the State to stick it for the last few years, and it has built up to this point. This is not some knee-jerk reaction by some bureaucrat, no matter how badly some of you may want to make it seem like that.

If that is the case, the state fell directly into the trap that the local association laid. By not making an exception for something that everyone's in favor of, they acted like jerks, even if their actions were justified.

You can't get past the fact that the proximate cause of their suspension had to do with breast cancer awareness. The state should have taken a pass on this one and dinged them on the next one.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

If that is the case, the state fell directly into the trap that the local association laid. By not making an exception for something that everyone's in favor of, they acted like jerks, even if their actions were justified.

You can't get past the fact that the proximate cause of their suspension had to do with breast cancer awareness. The state should have taken a pass on this one and dinged them on the next one.

No one has a problem with an official using the media to make the state look like jerks?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

No one has a problem with an official using the media to make the state look like jerks?

Nope. Not when the state makes a poor choice of a situation to demonstrate its authoritah.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

No one has a problem with an official using the media to make the state look like jerks?

The state made itself look like a jerk. The media just let us know about it.

[asdf]

How about this gem from Stordahl...

"There's one person who has the authority to make that decision, and it's not PNFOA." Stordahl says he already turned down three other referee groups that wanted to use the whistles.

It's good to be the king....

[rockyroad]

Ok, so some of you just don't get it. If you ever move to Washington, you will fit right in with the PNFOA.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Ok, so some of you just don't get it. If you ever move to Washington, you will fit right in with the PNFOA.

Rocky,

With all due respect I am not sure what the big issue is. And if they feel they are standing on solid ground and worrying about what color the whistles are, then why would they change their stance and back off?

I know many officials that have personally sent Todd emails. If he is right he should stand his ground.

HS sports are about the community and officials are an extension of that community. Is this really an issue the WOA has to make a big deal? Of all things this is it? And you have not said anything that changes that fact. If the WOA is right they should stand their ground.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Ok, so some of you just don't get it. If you ever move to Washington, you will fit right in with the PNFOA.

I'm sure there are many officials in WA that feel exactly the same way and quietly comply just because they would rather not get on this guy's bad side. Good on that group for being willing to take a stand over something they feel is important, for whatever reason.

And nope, I don't get it. This isn't basketball. People in football use black whistles, metal whistles, and metal whistles with white tips. Not everyone on the same crew uses the same whistle -- it's personal preference. I've used a Thunderer (metal with white rubber tip) and while I've gone back to a Fox 40, I wouldn't keep someone on my crew from using one if they like it best. Most people don't give a flying fig about the color of whistle for a football official. That's why it's not even specified in the NFHS manual.

Next someone will say that a specific crew card and a certain type of pen or pencil is required, too.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I'm sure there are many officials in WA that feel exactly the same way and quietly comply just because they would rather not get on this guy's bad side. Good on that group for being willing to take a stand over something they feel is important, for whatever reason.

And nope, I don't get it. This isn't basketball. People in football use black whistles, metal whistles, and metal whistles with white tips. Not everyone on the same crew uses the same whistle -- it's personal preference. I've used a Thunderer (metal with white rubber tip) and while I've gone back to a Fox 40, I wouldn't keep someone on my crew from using one if they like it best. Most people don't give a flying fig about the color of whistle for a football official. That's why it's not even specified in the NFHS manual.

Next someone will say that a specific crew card and a certain type of pen or pencil is required, too.

Exactly!!!

Peace

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Ok, so some of you just don't get it. If you ever move to Washington, you will fit right in with the PNFOA.

No, rocky, you and the WOA don't get it. Every thing that comes out of the WOA just makes them look worse.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Ok, so some of you just don't get it. If you ever move to Washington, you will fit right in with the PNFOA.

Still looks like a pissing contest to me. True, as you point out, it's one with a history beyond this one episode, and with plenty of vituperation on both sides. But, hey, it's still piss.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Still looks like a pissing contest to me. True, as you point out, it's one with a history beyond this one episode, and with plenty of vituperation on both sides. But, hey, it's still piss.

Sure...but it's a pissing match started by and forced by the officials in question...so why aren't some of these other people sending them any e-mails or blasting them? No - let's just blast the one guy who actually followed the "rules" or "directives" or whatever you want to call them.

Some people have some really strange colored glasses that never see wrong from a fellow official. In this case, these guys do not deserve the support thay are getting.