untimed down?

[The Roamin' Umpire]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan

coming off a timeout we had 23 seconds left in the 1st half, 4th down and long. team A punts the ball but we have a block below the waist behind the neutral zone(before ball was kicked) and team B accepts the penalty, we replay 4th down. at this point there is 13 seconds to go in the half. when would the clock start? if it starts on the ready for play we have an untimed down.

Under Fed rules, start the clock on the ready. We have not awarded a new series after a legal kick, and there was no fair catch made. See casebook 3.4.2, especially situation D.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by The Roamin' Umpire

Under Fed rules, start the clock on the ready. We have not awarded a new series after a legal kick, and there was no fair catch made. See casebook 3.4.2, especially situation D.

Thank you for a great reference. Any day you learn something, you thought you already knew, is a good day.

[Robert Goodman]

Anyway, futile for team B to enforce the penalty, when A is just going to take a knee.

[Coach Jinx]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Anyway, futile for team B to enforce the penalty, when A is just going to take a knee.

how do you know that? Maybe now they could decide to throw a hail mary, I would think that R would/should decline the foul & they would choose to run a play or down it, I don't see many situations where R would want K to keep the ball

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Anyway, futile for team B to enforce the penalty, when A is just going to take a knee.

Not if B has a time out left...

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Not if B has a time out left...

Yes, I hadn't thought about that one. It might not have paid for them to take time out with the previous field position, but the penalty could change their mind. Good catch.