Horsecollar help

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

A semantic change from the way it was enforced around here. We simply would've called it a live ball personal foul. Same enforcement, different signal.

If he's in the act of getting pulled down by the HC and then loses the ball during that act or at the very end of it...I'm still calling HC. He was a runner when the act occurred...the split second before he touches the ground/loses the ball are miniscule IMO. Either one is PF. Just had this in a game in WI this past week.

[ppaltice]

Originally Posted by Canned Heat

If he's in the act of getting pulled down by the HC and then loses the ball during that act or at the very end of it...I'm still calling HC. He was a runner when the act occurred...the split second before he touches the ground/loses the ball are miniscule IMO. Either one is PF. Just had this in a game in WI this past week.

Sorry for the confusion. This year it is a HC all the way. The act starts with grabbing the runner's collar or shoulder pads and ends with "that opponent" being subsequently pulled to the ground. The player does not need to be the runner when he is pulled to the ground, only when the HC is initiated (9-4-3k).

Oh, and runner does not need to be the ball carrier. It also includes someone simulating carrying the ball (2-32-13).

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by ppaltice

Sorry for the confusion. This year it is a HC all the way. The act starts with grabbing the runner's collar or shoulder pads and ends with "that opponent" being subsequently pulled to the ground. The player does not need to be the runner when he is pulled to the ground, only when the HC is initiated (9-4-3k).

Oh, and runner does not need to be the ball carrier. It also includes someone simulating carrying the ball (2-32-13).

I realized I hadn't applied the revision after I sent it...you're right, it's any opponent, ball carrier or not.