Revised Brain Teaser

[Mike L]

It's pretty much the same for both codes as your original "Brain Teaser" except now you've thrown an illegal bat into the picture. It's a bat because an airborne player cannot complete a catch, therefore if he intentionally propels the ball in some direction, he has batted it. And an offensive player may not bat a backward pass forward 1) at all in NFHS or, 2) in an attempt to gain yardage in NCAA.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Mike L

It's pretty much the same for both codes as your original "Brain Teaser" except now you've thrown an illegal bat into the picture. It's a bat because an airborne player cannot complete a catch, therefore if he intentionally propels the ball in some direction, he has batted it. And an offensive player may not bat a backward pass forward 1) at all in NFHS or, 2) in an attempt to gain yardage in NCAA.

Another difference is that 88 is not fielding a forward pass, which was part of what was illegal in the first sitch.

You sure this fits the definition of BAT in the two rule codes you mention? And what about NFL to those that work that code.

[Mike L]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Another difference is that 88 is not fielding a forward pass, which was part of what was illegal in the first sitch.

You sure this fits the definition of BAT in the two rule codes you mention? And what about NFL to those that work that code.

True, eligibility would not be lost per NCAA since it's backward, so that particular foul could not be called, but the others could as before along with the illegal bat.

As for the definition of bat, it's clear per NCAA "striking it or changing direction with hands or arms". NFHS, not so clear, but I don't know what else you could call it. I believe we discussed this type play, only it was a legal forward pass to a legal airborne receiver who tossed it forward to another rec'r, in one of our meetings a while ago and our rule interp guy came up with batting but because it was a legal forward to legal rec'r who never completed a catch, there was no foul.