What is the foul?

[kdf5]

John, it's evident you either suffered a blow to the head or you need one.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by kdf5

John, it's evident you either suffered a blow to the head or you need one.

I wonder if the rule change this year will apply to coaches as well.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I wonder if the rule change this year will apply to coaches as well.

The rules do not apply to him.

He's free to ridicule the officials working his games, he's free to question their integrity, he's free to stand on the sidelines and chirp at the guys as he sees fits.

He's done all that on the FED site, and when called on it, you guess it, he tell them his interpretation (which is always right) of the rule or regulation regarding coaches and their conduct.

I called him a phony in a different thread........... I was wrong ..........

He's a narcissistic phony.

[bigjohn]

Very mature, attack me because you don't like what I am saying.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Very mature, attack me because you don't like what I am saying.

I suspect that he attacked you because of how you said it and because you habitually and truculently refuse to learn anything, which is a reflection of your character.

But I shouldn't put words in other people's mouths.

[bigjohn]

I can tell you that my crew will not flag this if the kid is properly covered.

We'll talk with the coach after and remind him to get the player inside the marks, but we're simply not going to flag the first one.

Normally this happens during a hurry-up where they get lined up before I can hit the RFP and the defense is ready, the offense is ready and everyone's waiting on the line to set and for the umpire to spot the ball and for me to blow the RFP. Why should they have to wait inside and then shift into their formation?

It's a rule that was written to combat deceptive substitutions and shifts and I would rather work with the intent of the rule rather than the strict letter of it, regardless of how many case plays someone posts.

That is how you are supposed to look at this situation?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by asdf

He's done all that on the FED site, and when called on it, you guess it, he tell them his interpretation (which is always right) of the rule or regulation regarding coaches and their conduct.

He's a narcissistic phony.

He does the same crap periodically on the NFHS basketball forum. He has no interest whatsoever in officiating or the rules of any particular sport. He is...pure and simple....your basic troll. One of the better and more effective trolls, for sure, but still a troll.

The best way to deal with the "bigjohns" of the world is to absolutely never debate them about anything related to the rules. They aren't really interested in those anyway; just stirring things up. Just tell 'em to piss off back to where they come from. That's the mature way to handle people like him.

[jjrye22]

It seems to me that John is not happy because there is a rule and it is not being followed to the letter. He wants (if I understand the content of the thread correctly) simply to have an ironclad writing of the rule so that everyone is on the same level when it comes to evaluating the situation.

My answer to that for John is that holding is clearly defined in the rulebook, but there are a huge amount of times that it happens on the field (and is even seen by the officials) and doesn't get called.
The philosophy is to only call it if there is a 'material restriction' (or something to that effect). If I see one and don't flag it, I try to talk to the player or coach when appropriate to let them know that it wasn't called in this instance, but might be in the future, so they should try to play within the letter of the rule.

I think we see a similar philosophy here about the 9 yards and substitutes.

[bigjohn]

If you guys saw the number of emails and IMs I get from officials saying how much they want me to keep up my banter on these websites you would know that I am the voice of many people who think the same way I do.

It is not the same as holding or any other common foul as to when to call it or not call it. It rarely happens and should be called to stop any coaches from being able to take advantage of the fact that it goes uncalled.

If someone leaves the field and comes back on he is an illegal substitute, if he comes on after the snap, IP and if he comes on one second before the snap and gets set and he is the 11th man he is subbing for someone and never got in a LEGAL offensive formation, he should be considered an illegal substitute, if 2-32-15 was written as I say you would all agree.
Or 3-7-5 was amended to include, "A players must have been inside the 9s"

[mbyron]

The silent majority lives! Ha!

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

If you guys saw the number of emails and IMs I get from officials saying how much they want me to keep up my banter on these websites you would know that I am the voice of many people who think the same way I do. "

Voice of the phonies !!!


LMAO !!!!

[bigjohn]

So JR, you look at the world from a dog's point of view?


Treat life's little problems like your dog would ... If you can't eat it or shag it, ... P i s s on it and walk away!!!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

If you guys saw the number of emails and IMs I get from officials saying how much they want me to keep up my banter on these websites you would know that I am the voice of many people who think the same way I do.

Unionize 'em, johnboy. You can be the first president of the UTA- the United Trolls of America.

Go bother the soccer officials for a while. It's their turn.

Shoo, shoo......

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Treat life's little problems like your dog would ... If you can't eat it or shag it, ... P i s s on it and walk away!!!

That's not a bad philosophy actually when it comes to clowns like you, johnboy.

Have you hit the wrestling officials yet today? When is it the volleyball officials' turn?

Please keep us advised of your itinerary.

[bigjohn]