Pile in the endzone & Ball belongs to ...

mbyron · #1 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 31, 2009, 01:56pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

But if possession was ruled, all the digging would do is confirm that the player that you claim had the ball, actually still has the ball.

What's the point? If a player has possession and is down in the EZ, who cares whether he still has the ball after the pile?

ML99 · #2 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 31, 2009, 02:16pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron

What's the point? If a player has possession and is down in the EZ, who cares whether he still has the ball after the pile?

sorry I maybe didn't describe the situation well. the ball was rolling around in the end zone. Both teams jumped for the ball. and others jumped for the ball ... there was a pile ... all happend in 1-2 seconds. I am not sure if Team B player had the ball completely under control when grabbing for it since the pile immediately was build.

(sorry for my bad English)

What if we would have digged and Team A had the ball in their hands? If B would have controlled the ball when lying on the ground they would still have it after the digging. I mean you dig, because you don't know who has the fumble. If I was totally sure that Team B would have controlled the ball on the ground we'd all have blown our whistle before.

TXMike · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 31, 2009, 02:29pm

Ask your U and LJ why they did not shut things down if they saw defense in possession on the ground before the pile developed. EVerything after that is immaterial.

Matt-MI · #4 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 31, 2009, 04:42pm

That was my thought as well Mike. If the U & LJ saw B with the the ball they should have been signaling TB right away.

JRutledge · #5 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 31, 2009, 07:07pm

I am not ruling a TD or a touch back with a pile where I cannot see the ball. I am going to wait until that pile is untangled. I am not talking about one or two players on top of each other; I am talking about where the ball is completely lost. If that is the case, usually the ball is still loose. I have been burned by ruling one way quickly, only to have another player hand us the ball outside of the pile.

Peace

Canned Heat · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 01, 2009, 07:52am

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Originally Posted by TXMike

Ask your U and LJ why they did not shut things down if they saw defense in possession on the ground before the pile developed. Everything after that is immaterial.

Agreed...

Robert Goodman · #7 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 31, 2009, 08:21pm

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Originally Posted by ML99

Both teams jumped for the ball. and others jumped for the ball ...

Lack of crowd control?

jaybird · #8 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 31, 2009, 10:45pm

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What kind of ruling would you make as the HR?

HR?
What does a home run have to do with football officiating?

ML99 · #9 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 01, 2009, 06:01am

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