Black pants question for umpires

[FTVMartin]

Just got my black pants and was thinking they would look good with a black towel instead of a white one. Any thoughts?

Also, I see that Honigs is now selling black ball flags. I wonder if black beanbags will be next.

[johnnyg08]

yeah, i would say a black towel would be better than looking like a skunk...our state won't let us wear them yet though.

[Reffing Rev.]

So football officials have now gone from being fashion police to being fashion conscious.

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by FTVMartin

Just got my black pants and was thinking they would look good with a black towel instead of a white one. Any thoughts?

Also, I see that Honigs is now selling black ball flags. I wonder if black beanbags will be next.

The black (and white) balled flags are so you don't have to tape them anymore.

But yeah, go for a black towel. Might look good!

[jaybird]

I wonder if black beanbags will be next.

We already use black bean bags.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by FTVMartin

Just got my black pants and was thinking they would look good with a black towel instead of a white one. Any thoughts?

Also, I see that Honigs is now selling black ball flags. I wonder if black beanbags will be next.

The bean bags would not serve the same purpose as the flags with the black covering on the tip.

Peace

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by jaybird

We already use black bean bags.

Why?

Are they easier to see on the fields on which you officiate?

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The bean bags would not serve the same purpose as the flags with the black covering on the tip.

Peace

Sure they would. Both would match the color of the pants thus blending in instead of standing out.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jaybird

Sure they would. Both would match the color of the pants thus blending in instead of standing out.

Bean bags are not used for penalties. No one cares if you reach for a bean bag.

Peace

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Bean bags are not used for penalties. No one cares if you reach for a bean bag.

At least Jeff and I can agree on one thing.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Bean bags are not used for penalties. No one cares if you reach for a bean bag.

Peace

You're assuming that everyone uses the black flags because they don't want to be seen reaching for it. I'm sure some use them because they like the look of them blending in with the pants. And I could see a situation coming up with a fumble where the official reaches for the beanbag but then rules that there was not a fumble.

And I don't think it would take too long for teams to realize that the white ball sticking out of your pants is the flag; it isn't some big secret.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by LDUB

You're assuming that everyone uses the black flags because they don't want to be seen reaching for it. I'm sure some use them because they like the look of them blending in with the pants. And I could see a situation coming up with a fumble where the official reaches for the beanbag but then rules that there was not a fumble.

And I don't think it would take too long for teams to realize that the white ball sticking out of your pants is the flag; it isn't some big secret.

Assuming?

The reason those flags were created were to blend into the color of the pants. This was the reason for the white tipped flag in the first place. Before the white tipped flags, many official would put white tape on the ball portion of the flag so if they reached for their flag (if in their belt) it would not be as obvious as when you would reach for a yellow object. And this is also the reason the flags are suggested in many parts of the country to have them in your belt. It is not as obvious if you reach for your flag and then change your mind what sometimes happens. And no one made these flags with the black on them until the black pants were made available. That is the actually reason the flags were manufactured the way they were, not based on an assumption I am making.

Peace

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Assuming?

The reason those flags were created were to blend into the color of the pants. This was the reason for the white tipped flag in the first place. Before the white tipped flags, many official would put white tape on the ball portion of the flag so if they reached for their flag (if in their belt) it would not be as obvious as when you would reach for a yellow object. And this is also the reason the flags are suggested in many parts of the country to have them in your belt. It is not as obvious if you reach for your flag and then change your mind what sometimes happens. And no one made these flags with the black on them until the black pants were made available. That is the actually reason the flags were manufactured the way they were, not based on an assumption I am making.

Peace

So that is why they were made that way. And you are sure that every person who has one of those flags bought it because of that specific reason.

What if I told you that I worked with an official in a youth game wearing white shorts using a flag with a black ball? Obviously he is not using that flag so that it blends in with his shorts. Maybe he likes that the black flag does not show dirt on the ball portion as easily as a white or yellow one. Maybe black is his favorite color. There seem to be a lot of reasons why people could want a black or white flag. You can assume that each one of them bought the flag so that they won't be seen reaching for the yellow and I will assume that at least 1 of those flags were sold for a different reason.

And if reaching for your flag is such a big deal why don't you just not reach for it unless you are going to call a foul?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Assuming?

The reason those flags were created were to blend into the color of the pants. This was the reason for the white tipped flag in the first place. Before the white tipped flags, many official would put white tape on the ball portion of the flag so if they reached for their flag (if in their belt) it would not be as obvious as when you would reach for a yellow object. And this is also the reason the flags are suggested in many parts of the country to have them in your belt. It is not as obvious if you reach for your flag and then change your mind what sometimes happens. And no one made these flags with the black on them until the black pants were made available. That is the actually reason the flags were manufactured the way they were, not based on an assumption I am making.

Peace

Wow. I guess I've been doing it all wrong all these years. I mean, I just figured the coaches *knew* I carried flags and didn't have to hide them.

It will be a cold day in you-know-where before I tape a flag or buy one with a ball any color other than yellow. (Unless I ever move up and then I'll do whatever they tell me to do, of course.)

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by InsideTheStripe

At least Jeff and I can agree on one thing.

Oh, now you've done it. Look for a post that says "I never said I agreed with you..."