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Old Wed Jun 17, 2009, 09:59am
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Illinois: Here come black pants!

IHSA - Announcements towards the bottom of the minutes of the meeting.

Are there any other states that allow black pants?

Will your crew adopt black pants this year?

I doubt our crew will use them this year.
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Old Wed Jun 17, 2009, 10:13am
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Interesting.

Is anyone even offering the cold weather NFL style pant for sale? I haven't seen it (but haven't looked that hard). I wouldn't mind wearing them. I think they look sharp.
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Old Wed Jun 17, 2009, 11:19am
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We 've discussed this topic some before. I think Penn. allows them already but their version is basically a nylon windsuit style pant. To me, that drawcord waistband inhibits wind pants from being effective.

The NFL pants have grown on me. I could live without the white stripe but I think it looks infinitely better than the contrasting black stripe on white knickers, which I think is atrocious. I would also prefer the pants be a bit more tapered at the ankle or gathered with elastic.
The current baseball pant style- aka "pajama bottoms"- would be something to work off of.

Honig's will probably come out with a version when enough states certify them for use at the high school level. I'd look for the NCAA to pick them up next.
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Old Wed Jun 17, 2009, 11:23am
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We might. Then again this is something we have yet to talk about. I would be open to the possibility.

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Old Wed Jun 17, 2009, 01:11pm
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In ND they were allowed last year for the first time. There really is no standard as to what they are. The guys who got them got a pair with a draw string and no belt loops. No stripe. They were some kind of a nylon-type sweat pant. Apparently, they were a pain to keep up. I think too many guys jumped on the bandwagon as if it were the newest fad and now they don't like them very much.

IMHO they looked like they were working a fraternity flag football league, not professional-looking at all. I refused to wear them so the rest of my crew didn't either. I was always warm enough with long Johns on. I think if a white stripe was added, they would look better, giving a 'verticality' to them. Otherwise, they make everyone look fat and dumpy. Kinda like a stereotypical umpire. (OOPS!)
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Old Wed Jun 17, 2009, 01:16pm
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Black pants or shorts - all I can say is that I won't wear them. First of all, I don't want to buy them - it's just spending extra money . Second, I don't like them - they look dumb. You can use the same arguments for and against shorts and black pants, but I think they look silly.
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Old Wed Jun 17, 2009, 01:19pm
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We might. Then again this is something we have yet to talk about. I would be open to the possibility.

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Once a state or two adopt this, Honig's will be selling them. That's when I'll consider it, if Wisconsin offers this as an option. Then again, I think we're going to work 1 or 2 Illinois dates again starting in 2010, so maybe....
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I've heard from reliable sources, but nothing 'official' yet, NJ will be allowing black pants. Supposedly we have a supplier who is manufacturing all-black pants with two rear pockets and belt loops. Lacrosse officials have been wearing similar 'rain pants' for years. The problem with the lacrosse pants is that they only have a drawstring waist and tend to slide down, especially if you try to hang anything on the your waist.
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I think the Black Pants look great;
When they are worn for EITHER the Sunday Adult Flag OR the Saturday Beerball league
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Old Thu Jun 18, 2009, 10:18am
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I do not like black pants on Sunday
I do not like black pants on Saturday
I do not like black pants on Friday
I do not like black pants on Thursday
I could be convinced to trying black pants in a miserably misty frigid freshman game on a Monday...nah
I do not like black pants on Monday.


I wear enough black in my day job.
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Old Thu Jun 18, 2009, 10:35am
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I don't know if any of you have seen the July issue of Referee however Cliff Keen is advertising in the front cover for black football official's pants that include belt loops and a zipper and button fly. These pants have a white stripe down the leg.

If you go further into the magazine, they are also advertising the same pants with no stripe for Lacrosse officials. It is only a matter of time before the other manufacturers start making them.

Edit: I just check the CK website and they are not on there yet.
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Old Thu Jun 18, 2009, 11:08am
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I do not like black pants on Sunday
I do not like black pants on Saturday
I do not like black pants on Friday
I do not like black pants on Thursday
I could be convinced to trying black pants in a miserably misty frigid freshman game on a Monday...nah
I do not like black pants on Monday.


I wear enough black in my day job.
I do not like black pants, Sam I am.
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Old Thu Jun 18, 2009, 11:13am
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I do not like black pants on Sunday
I do not like black pants on Saturday
I do not like black pants on Friday
I do not like black pants on Thursday
I could be convinced to trying black pants in a miserably misty frigid freshman game on a Monday...nah
I do not like black pants on Monday.


I wear enough black in my day job.
Rev, I thought you were going into Dr Seuss mode there

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Anyway, I work for one assigner for youth and Jr High games and he wants black shorts (and pants for cold weather). I bought black softball shorts at Dicks Sporting goods last year. They have 4 pockets and belt loops just like the white shorts, no problems.
I already had black drawstring pants and I wore them 2-3 times last year. To "fix" the problem of them slipping down when loaded with the flag and bean bag I just wore the black shorts under them with the belt and tucked everything into them.
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Old Mon Jun 22, 2009, 01:45pm
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Edit: I just check the CK website and they are not on there yet.
I emailed CK today and here was the response:

"Thank you for your inquiry. The black officiating pants should be posted in sometime in July and will be available in the fall."
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I do not like black pants on Sunday
I do not like black pants on Saturday
I do not like black pants on Friday
I do not like black pants on Thursday
I could be convinced to trying black pants in a miserably misty frigid freshman game on a Monday...nah
I do not like black pants on Monday.


I wear enough black in my day job.
Change denomination and you might not have that problem.

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