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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 12:18pm
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Which clearly means, "it is called differently, every Friday night!" Just depends on what kind of official is making that judgment call. That my friend is called, inconsistency and that is what drives coaches crazy!
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 01:02pm
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=That my friend is called, inconsistency and that is what drives coaches crazy!
Well that's what happens when you using human beings as officials. Someone has to make the judgment whether or not an act is illegal. We can use rules an philosophy but we still have to apply our judgment. That is what we get paid to do.

John, I still think you would benefit from seeing some snaps as an official. My this discussion seems familiar.
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 01:35pm
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The problem is that oftentimes a guy's philosophy of football impairs his judgment of the rules and interpretations as written.

I think I would do just fine as an official and may do just that when I no longer am a coach. I will retire from teaching and coaching in 5 years and plan to do just that.

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I wouldn't be so quick to discount it...I thought the same thing when I was a coach.
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 05:27pm
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The problem is that oftentimes a guy's philosophy of football impairs his judgment of the rules and interpretations as written.

I think I would do just fine as an official and may do just that when I no longer am a coach. I will retire from teaching and coaching in 5 years and plan to do just that.
You have a lot of serious things taking place in your games. I rarely ever hear the defense give signals that at all can be confused with the offense. Dude, what kind of cheap football do you guys play in Ohio?

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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 08:28pm
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Whatever, Rut. Like that cheap crap doesn't happen in ILL. They just have fights and get banned for the season.
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 11:43pm
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Whatever, Rut. Like that cheap crap doesn't happen in ILL. They just have fights and get banned for the season.
I never said it does not happen, but it does not happen every game or even every other game. You claim a bunch of stuff happens every game that most of us hardly see in a single season. If it is not this, it is butt blocking and tackling, then intentional grounding. I do not even hear coaches complaining about these things the way you do.

And yes there was a fight and there was a kid that died of an asthma attack that same Friday and neither happened in my games. I would not say those were common occurrences. But if they happen once in your game, to you they happen all the time.

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Old Wed Sep 16, 2009, 06:02am
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I have never said all things happen in just my games. I see a lot of games and have been doing this a long time, Mr Official. I see 3 to 5 scouting tapes a week and see clips from games all over the state via the internet.
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Old Sun Sep 20, 2009, 10:16pm
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The problem is that oftentimes a guy's philosophy of football impairs his judgment of the rules and interpretations as written.

I think I would do just fine as an official and may do just that when I no longer am a coach. I will retire from teaching and coaching in 5 years and plan to do just that.
There goes the neighborhood!
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Old Wed Sep 23, 2009, 01:55pm
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Disconcerting Act?

So, what kinds of acts would you consider a disconcerting "act?"

I was told by a friend of a high school game this past weekend in which all the defensive linemen on a certain signal all did a belly flop. It caused the offense to jump and the crew ruled a false start by the offense.

Any thoughts?
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Old Wed Sep 23, 2009, 02:07pm
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Same deal. That's not football.
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Old Wed Sep 23, 2009, 11:45pm
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So, what kinds of acts would you consider a disconcerting "act?"

I was told by a friend of a high school game this past weekend in which all the defensive linemen on a certain signal all did a belly flop. It caused the offense to jump and the crew ruled a false start by the offense.

Any thoughts?
What, like if you get the other team laughing, they forget how to play? I wouldn't consider that disconcerting in a way that would violate that rule.
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Old Tue Sep 15, 2009, 03:57pm
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Which clearly means, "it is called differently, every Friday night!" Just depends on what kind of official is making that judgment call. That my friend is called, inconsistency and that is what drives coaches crazy!
Have you ever considered that rather than the inconsistency driving you crazy, it's your expectation that things that happen in different games, between different teams and players, under different circumstances and conditions would some how be rigidly consistent, that's causing your agita?
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