False Start Rule 7.1.7b

[mbyron]

In this case, there is no "act," and so no foul by A. The omission of an act (a snap) does not itself constitute an act "clearly intended to cause B to encroach."

The rule is intended to penalize a QB's head bob with hard count, a sudden jump off the line by a wing going in motion, and other such acts (of commission).

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by mbyron

The rule is intended to penalize a QB's head bob with hard count, a sudden jump off the line by a wing going in motion, and other such acts (of commission).

Spot on with this answer.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Mregor

Spot on with this answer.

No, not so spot on. Other provisions of Fed's or of NCAA's false start provisions would at least outlaw the head bob, and probably the sudden jump start (have to see it). Fed seems to have purposely adopted an open-ended wording that's sure to lead to disagreements. What if a player of A pretends to be watching a BJ's signals or play clock and yells, "Pass the ball now!"? How about, "Darn! Every time I get into 3-point, my nose itches. Would you mind scratching it for me?"

Robert

[kfo9494]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

No, not so spot on. Other provisions of Fed's or of NCAA's false start provisions would at least outlaw the head bob, and probably the sudden jump start (have to see it). Fed seems to have purposely adopted an open-ended wording that's sure to lead to disagreements. What if a player of A pretends to be watching a BJ's signals or play clock and yells, "Pass the ball now!"? How about, "Darn! Every time I get into 3-point, my nose itches. Would you mind scratching it for me?"

Robert

What the hey?
I need a philosophy of intended action degree.

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by kfo9494

What the hey?
I need a philosophy of intended action degree.

Yeah..another what the hey.

Pass the ball NOW would be no different than the HC or a player telling the QB to snap the ball quickly due to play clock nearing expiration. Nothing at all there. The part about a player trying to get another one to itch his nose would fall under nothing but maybe taunting or unsportsmanlike, and a simple "knock it off" would take care of that.

Reading a little too into that IMO.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Canned Heat

The part about a player trying to get another one to itch his nose would fall under nothing but maybe taunting or unsportsmanlike, and a simple "knock it off" would take care of that.

You may want to rephrase that! :-O

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

You may want to rephrase that! :-O

Go ahead...I'll play along.

No, not so spot on. Other provisions of Fed's or of NCAA's false start provisions would at least outlaw the head bob, and probably the sudden jump start (have to see it). Fed seems to have purposely adopted an open-ended wording that's sure to lead to disagreements. What if a player of A pretends to be watching a BJ's signals or play clock and yells, "Pass the ball now!"? How about, "Darn! Every time I get into 3-point, my nose itches. Would you mind scratching it for me?"

Robert

Yeah..another what the hey.

Pass the ball NOW would be no different than the HC or a player telling the QB to snap the ball quickly due to play clock nearing expiration. Nothing at all there. The part about a player trying to get another one to itch his nose would fall under nothing but maybe taunting or unsportsmanlike, and a simple "knock it off" would take care of that.

Reading a little too into that IMO.
Yesterday 12:05pm

What might I want to rephrase...? The "knock it off" part or the nose itching part...?

These are your examples here partner....no one elses.