Illegal Snap, Motion?

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by jaybird

Ed,
Let me interpret. Al didn't have any answers or suggestions to the original post so he used a whole bunch of words to be sarcastic and to say nothing relevant.

[mikesears]

I think Al is saying that he is happy the guy asked. Ignorant people are teachable. Stupid people aren't.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by jaybird

Ed,
Let me interpret. Al didn't have any answers or suggestions to the original post so he used a whole bunch of words to be sarcastic and to say nothing relevant.

I want to be sure I didn't mislead you, Jaybird, it's entirely possible to be both ignorant and stupid at the same time. The fact that you can't find relevance in civility doesn't mean it's not there.

[Ed Hickland]

Originally Posted by ajmc

I want to be sure I didn't mislead you, Jaybird, it's entirely possible to be both ignorant and stupid at the same time. The fact that you can't find relevance in civility doesn't mean it's not there.

Al, you never have anything good to say about anything. If someone said at noon the sun was shining you would disagree and saracastically use words to make them feel less than. It must be your sick way for getting attention.

I am no longer going to participate in any thread where you participate and I would highly suggest anyone else on this forum adopt the same.

Have a good life.

[KWH]

I wholeheartedly agree with Ed!

Out of curiosity is it possible to disable this clowns posts so I don't ever have to view them again?

AJMC = Another Jackass Making Comments

[Forksref]

Originally Posted by HossHumard

And in addition to some requirements already stated here, in Canada, a snap MUST travel in between the centre's legs to be legal.

In Idaho they prefer a wide stance.

[Forksref]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Rather than belittle and mock the intelligence of the questioner

He wasn't belittling the questioner. The questioner and the coach are not the same person. It's the coach who devised this stupid play.

Verrrry slowly read the original post.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Forksref

He wasn't belittling the questioner. The questioner and the coach are not the same person. It's the coach who devised this stupid play.

Verrrry slowly read the original post.

Thank's for your advise, I did as you suggested and Verrrry slowly read the original post, especially the part that says, "A friend who coaches little league asked me this scenario".

I understand that often little league coaches can be an enormous PIA (pain in the ...) but in reality many of them are learning too and we have an opportunity to steer them in the right direction with the answers we give to sincere and serious questions.

If you think the question is neither sincere or serious, you can always deal with that differently. We are all borne with the inherent talent to be a smart a.., the skill some learn better than others, is how and when to apply that talent to be effective.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by ajmc

I understand that often little league coaches can be an enormous PIA (pain in the ...) but in reality many of them are learning too and we have an opportunity to steer them in the right direction with the answers we give to sincere and serious questions.

Not only that, but with fewer institutional constraints and large numbers, they can explore facets of the game that challenge its administration in ways that coaches at higher levels rarely do.

Robert in the Bronx

[Simbio]

First, thank you to all who replied to my original question. I thought the snapper had to be set prior to snapping as well, I just wanted to be sure.

Second, my mind must really be rusty on the rules. Isn't the restriction on the motion man only requires him to be 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage at the snap if he is to receive a handoff? Isn't he allowed to go in motion on the line of scrimmage or does he clearly have to position himself as a back prior to going in motion?

I know this is something I should know but for whatever reason it escapes me at the moment.

[ajmc]

NF: 7.3.6 & 7 covers this. "Only one player may be in motion at the snap and then only if such motion is not towards the opponent's goal line. Except for the player"under the snapper",....the player in motion shall be at least 5 yards behind the LOS at the snap if he started from any position not clearly behind the line and did not establish himself as a back by stopping for at least one full second....."

So, if a player on the line simply takes a step backwards, so he's clearly off the line, pauses at that position for a full second, (a separate shift by which he establishes himself as a back) he can then go in motion without being restricted to the 5 yards behind the LOS requirement.

[Ed Hickland]

Originally Posted by Simbio

First, thank you to all who replied to my original question. I thought the snapper had to be set prior to snapping as well, I just wanted to be sure.

Second, my mind must really be rusty on the rules. Isn't the restriction on the motion man only requires him to be 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage at the snap if he is to receive a handoff? Isn't he allowed to go in motion on the line of scrimmage or does he clearly have to position himself as a back prior to going in motion?

I know this is something I should know but for whatever reason it escapes me at the moment.

If an end goes in motion by rule he must be five yards behind the line of scrimmage irrepsective of whether he will receive a handoff. Unlike the NFL an end cannot go in motion on the line.

The current rule allows blocks below the waist and clips on the initial charge by offensive players stationary on the line of scrimmage and stationary at the snap and defensive players. At one point players who were in the 6 x 8 zone were allowed to BIBs and clips.

The restriction on the end was to make sure if the end went in motion he would be outside the free blocking zone at the snap.