OSU/Texas ending

[Rich]

Originally Posted by DesertZebra

OK, if the foul was on the receiver, then the entire Texas sideline should have been flagged for running 15 yards or so onto the field. Yeah, they were excited, but rules are rules.

I'm not making excuses, either, it's a valid question. Like I said, my cuz was white hatting, so I will definitely be asking him about that play (and the incorrect Roughing the Passer call in the 3rd quarter).

Great game to watch though!

How about a flag on the OSU coaching staff for running damned near out to the hashmarks on the 4th down play before the winning TD?

Amazing how this is "OK" and the "excessive celebration" gets the flag.

[DesertZebra]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

How about a flag on the OSU coaching staff for running damned near out to the hashmarks on the 4th down play before the winning TD?

The hashmarks on the sideline must be what you're referring to, because that's where the were standing. Nice try though.

[DesertZebra]

Hey, no complaints here. I won a pretty penny on that game. Bucks covered the spread easily.

[sloth]

Originally Posted by DesertZebra

Hey, no complaints here. I won a pretty penny on that game. Bucks covered the spread easily.

Not trying to be a jerk, but as an official, you may want to think about these sort of activities if you plan to advance up the ranks.

[OverAndBack]

You're right.

Sincerely,

Stephen Pamon

[golfnref]

Originally Posted by sloth

Not trying to be a jerk, but as an official, you may want to think about these sort of activities if you plan to advance up the ranks.

Agreed. Bad practice and even worse to boast about it.

[DesertZebra]

Friendly wagers, no biggie. Stop making mountains.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by DesertZebra

Friendly wagers, no biggie. Stop making mountains.

So you know, the NCAA does not consider any wager to be "friendly" or "no biggie." Not making mountains, just giving you something to keep in mind as you keep officiating.

[sloth]

Originally Posted by DesertZebra

Friendly wagers, no biggie. Stop making mountains.

I'm not trying to make mountians. I assumed that it was a firendly wager and nothing more. There are times that we can take an opportunity to help each other out if we see some potential issues that, as individuals, we may not see in ourselves.

Right now, the microscope is on all officials. We need to ever be vigilant as to how we are viewed. As a friendly note from one official to another, its probably not a good idea to talk on a public forum about your team covering the spread. Its one of those things that may be completely innocent, yet may cause you to do a lot of explaining some day you want to do college ball.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by DesertZebra

The hashmarks on the sideline must be what you're referring to, because that's where the were standing. Nice try though.

At least 3 coaches were INSIDE the white hat who had come over to measure. What about that huge white band is so hard for coaches to understand and officials to enforce?

Nice to see none of them working to get those coaches off the field, too.

Oh, another great finish by the Buckeyes again. 3 BCS bowl games lost in a row. Couldn't happen to a nicer team.

[johnSandlin]

On another note, I do feel a little bit sorry for both Oklahoma and Florida. Based on the rotation of officiating crews so far for the BCS, that means either the PAC 10 or ACC has the National Championship game this year.

I was hoping to see the Big XII, Big Ten, or Big East get the crew assignment for the National Championship. BTW Desert Zebra, kudos to your cousin's crew last night, I thought they did a GREAT job in the game especially at the end.

Your cousin deserves a lot of props for keeping his crew calm, cool, and collective with all the emotion of both sides in the weighing moments of the game.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

At least 3 coaches were INSIDE the white hat who had come over to measure. What about that huge white band is so hard for coaches to understand and officials to enforce?

Nice to see none of them working to get those coaches off the field, too.

Oh, another great finish by the Buckeyes again. 3 BCS bowl games lost in a row. Couldn't happen to a nicer team.

I watched some of the ESPN coverage after the game and their banner at the bottom of the screen initially said,

"Ohio State 5-2 in BCS Bowl Games"
"Texas ends 5 game BCS win streak"

I'm guessing they created two different banners depending on who won and showed the wrong one. It was up for several seconds and then came down. I was imagining some guy in the production truck going "Oh S%*#!" and pulling it down. But then it was back up again! It came down another time and when it went back up, Ohio State was now 5-3 in BCS games (I think they had the Texas 6-game win streak that time). A few minutes later they finally corrected the Ohio State record to 4-3.

Not a big deal but something that was at least a little entertaining at such a late hour.

[3SPORT]

I wish all codes would just change the celebration rules to reflect a true un-sportsmanslike act. Some reactions to a play are true human emotions and not taunting.

[DesertZebra]

Originally Posted by 3SPORT

I wish all codes would just change the celebration rules to reflect a true un-sportsmanslike act. Some reactions to a play are true human emotions and not taunting.

I agree with you on that point. But we've got to play with the cards we're dealt right now. The problem is, how can one define the difference between emotion and taunting. I think the rules are the way they are right now is because there is such a fine line... gotta flag all of it instead of some of it.

[TXMike]

Not that it really means anything but the R actually announced "excessive demonstration", which created some interesting discussion in the ref chatroom we had going.

From the Box Score:
T 1-10 O26 McCoy, Colt pass complete to Cosby, Quan for 26 yards to the OHIOST0,
1ST DOWN UT, TOUCHDOWN, clock 00:16.
Unsportmanlike conduct (excessive demonstration) penalty on kickoff.
Lawrence, Hunte kick attempt good.

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OHIO STATE 21, TEXAS 24
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T 1-G T30 PENALTY UT unsportsmanlike conduct (Cosby, Quan) 15 yards to the
UT15.




FYI - ACC has the MNC game (Ron "giving him the business" Cherry at R)