Taking On A Pack Of Viscous Hyenas

[zebra295]

Originally Posted by asdf

What's going to sell more videos?

The A-11 is "approved".

The A-11 is "technically legal".

If you really believe what you wrote about him in the above post, then you have to believe that he is ignorant or unintelligent.

I have my opinions about coach bryan. Neither of the previous are a part of them.

The discussion was about calling someone a "liar" due to representations of being "approved" versus only being declared "legal". In providing some "reason" to tone down the rhetoric of calling someone a liar, an actual dictionary definition was used and pointed to very little difference between the A-11 being declared "legal" by the FED or claimed "approved" by the FED.

Its unfair to interject "technically legal" into the discussion, unless you know of an instance where the FED has formally declared something "technically legal within the rules" before. Even though you think this may be the case with the A-11, it is a non-debatable fact, the FED declared the A-11 "legal and within the rules".

I don't think Bryan is ignorant or unintelligent, but I do think it is "reasonable" to conclude a high school coach who has "never submitted an offense for FED approval" understood that the FED saying it is within the current rules and therefore "legal" also meant "approved" by the governing body.

If your point it that "legal" instead of "approved" would mean more manual sales, they almost the same thing, so you have to be talking about a miniscule difference in advantage for potential sales. Maybe we can get that Yale professor who figured out the 16,000 combinations that can happen at the snap with the A-11 (California High School's Offensive Scheme Adds Randomness to Football: Scientific American) to chime on this topic!

The point trying to be made is, it seems like a good part of the rancor is based on reading too much into the supposed intentions of Kurt Bryan, almost to the point where he is gaining almost mythical abilities. Kinda like, does it really make sense he could manage "to work his con game on a writer for ESPN" to be part of a cover story for ESPN The Magazine? A high school coach mind-warping the poor helpless major sports publication writers of America? Way too much credit guys. Way too much paranioa.

[asdf]

1) The A-11, in certain states, is technically legal. If coach bryan can use the term "approved", I will use the term "technically". (that dog hunts both properties)

2) Marketing strategy...... "approved" will be used every time.

3) I wouldn't put too much stock in the ESPN article. The guy who wrote it didn't even understand what the heck he was writing about, otherwise he would not have stated that "everybody" is eligible to go downfield.

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by zebra295

Kinda like, does it really make sense he could manage "to work his con game on a writer for ESPN" to be part of a cover story for ESPN The Magazine? A high school coach mind-warping the poor helpless major sports publication writers of America? Way too much credit guys. Way too much paranioa.

This pretty much proves you are NOT an official cause if you were you would know that some of the most ignorant folks when it comes to the rules of the game are the media writers and broadcasters.

[zebra295]

Found asdf!!

"Normally used for punts, the rule stated that as long as the player receiving the snap was seven yards behind center, any teammate wearing the jersey of an eligible receiver (between Nos. 1 and 49 or 80 and 89) was permitted to go downfield. Bryan and Humphries had already been noodling with a 3-3-3 superspread base formation that had two sets of three receivers flushed out wide in "pods" close to the numbers, with a center inside flanked by two tight ends, in addition to two QBs in the backfield. Now the scrimmage kick formation rule was saying they could potentially send any of those 11 players out for passes." (An offensive revolution is coming to the NFL. Can anyone stop it? - ESPN The Magazine)

You are right, the first sentence is slightly confusing to that effect! What a gotcha moment!!! Who cares if it was clearly clarified in the very next sentence. We got him! This proves he's a sportswriter! How could someone make such a "major" mistake? Blasphemy!! Its almost as bad as confusing "legal" with "approved" (to give formal or official sanction)!

TXMike, can't wait to read your next masterpiece " The Snake Oil Sportswriter is at it again"!

[umpirebob71]

zebra, Please stop. For the love of God, please stop. Whatever your agenda is, it doesn't work for those of us who actually go on the field as officials. Enough is enough.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by zebra295

Found asdf!!

"Normally used for punts, the rule stated that as long as the player receiving the snap was seven yards behind center, any teammate wearing the jersey of an eligible receiver (between Nos. 1 and 49 or 80 and 89) was permitted to go downfield. Bryan and Humphries had already been noodling with a 3-3-3 superspread base formation that had two sets of three receivers flushed out wide in "pods" close to the numbers, with a center inside flanked by two tight ends, in addition to two QBs in the backfield. Now the scrimmage kick formation rule was saying they could potentially send any of those 11 players out for passes." (An offensive revolution is coming to the NFL. Can anyone stop it? - ESPN The Magazine)

You are right, the first sentence is slightly confusing to that effect! What a gotcha moment!!! Who cares if it was clearly clarified in the very next sentence. We got him! This proves he's a sportswriter! How could someone make such a "major" mistake? Blasphemy!! Its almost as bad as confusing "legal" with "approved" (to give formal or official sanction)!

TXMike, can't wait to read your next masterpiece " The Snake Oil Sportswriter is at it again"!

I'm happy to point out to you anything to keep your blood pressure elevated. Like your brother in protest, you are an easy mark. I can envision you throwing folders across the room every time you see an "insult".

[HLin NC]

Mrs. Bryan, would you please get off the computer and fix Kurt some supper please?


Thankee

[daggo66]

Originally Posted by zebra295

Found asdf!!

"Normally used for punts, the rule stated that as long as the player receiving the snap was seven yards behind center, any teammate wearing the jersey of an eligible receiver (between Nos. 1 and 49 or 80 and 89) was permitted to go downfield. Bryan and Humphries had already been noodling with a 3-3-3 superspread base formation that had two sets of three receivers flushed out wide in "pods" close to the numbers, with a center inside flanked by two tight ends, in addition to two QBs in the backfield. Now the scrimmage kick formation rule was saying they could potentially send any of those 11 players out for passes." (An offensive revolution is coming to the NFL. Can anyone stop it? - ESPN The Magazine)

You are right, the first sentence is slightly confusing to that effect! What a gotcha moment!!! Who cares if it was clearly clarified in the very next sentence. We got him! This proves he's a sportswriter! How could someone make such a "major" mistake? Blasphemy!! Its almost as bad as confusing "legal" with "approved" (to give formal or official sanction)!

TXMike, can't wait to read your next masterpiece " The Snake Oil Sportswriter is at it again"!

This is my favorite post so far! He seems so excited that he found the "rule." In any event he just proved that he's not a football official.

[Forksref]

Generally speaking, rules and laws don't tell you what you can do, they tell you what you can't do. That is the spirit of freedom.

A-11 is perfectly legal. I don't personally like it, but then, there are a lot of legal things being done in this country that I don't like.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by TXMike

This pretty much proves you are NOT an official cause if you were you would know that some of the most ignorant folks when it comes to the rules of the game are the media writers and broadcasters.

Yeah, he's giving way to much intellectual credit to a sports writer.

This thread's still open? Wow.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

This thread's still open? Wow.

It's taking a lot from me not to request that it be shut down.

[Ed Hickland]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

It's taking a lot from me not to request that it be shut down.

Actually, I love reading the essays!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

It's taking a lot from me not to request that it be shut down.

I was going to point it out to a moderator off line early on, but it's almost as entertaining as the Illinois Senate Fuster Cluck.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I was going to point it out to a moderator off line early on, but it's almost as entertaining as the Illinois Senate Fuster Cluck.

Between that, and the NY Govenor situation last year, politics makes my head spin even more. Then again, we have Harper who calls an election only to have the country wish to form a coalition government and to avoid this, our PM shuts down parliament.