A look back to almost 5 years ago... OSU vs Miami

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Horrible, awful, terrible call. I don't have enough adjectives to describe how bad that call was. When was he holding him while the ball was in the air? There was ZERO contact when the ball was in the air before it was touched. NONE. Go back and watch the first video. They zoom in and slow it down once the ball is released. If Porter wanted to throw the flag because of the "holding" at the line of scrimmage, why didn't he throw his flag then? Why did he wait 3 full seconds after the play was over (And probably 5+ after the "holding" at the line) before he threw the flag?

That was a crap call that stole a national championship. I don't referee football, just basketball, but at least I can admit it when I think a basketball official on TV has kicked a call. Why can't football officials do the same?

LOL! What complete and total . You're an embarassment to all basketball officials to make such statements.

Look at the photo below and tell me again "There was ZERO contact when the ball was in the air."



Now let's see if you have the balls to admit that you're wrong!

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

LOL! What complete and total . You're an embarassment to all basketball officials to make such statements.

Look at the photo below and tell me again "There was ZERO contact when the ball was in the air."



Now let's see if you have the balls to admit that you're wrong!

How can you even tell there is pass interference? Because this picture tells you there is? You can't see Sharpe's right hand, and the videos of this play don't show Gamble being contacted while the ball is in flight. So no, I won't admit I'm wrong.

[JugglingReferee]

Oh well, we tried to help you there sparky.

[sj]

zm

As an official of any sport you should have learned by now that the only ones who understand all of what and why they call things are the guys working the games. That would be you in basketball since you call basketball. But that wouldn't be you in football because you don't call it. You sound like a thousand moronic fans that have said the same exact, uninformed and dis-informed things you've said on this board. And no doubt you've never:

1) Read an NCAA or conference philosophy statement. For that matter it's not likely you even knew they existed before now.
2) Read weekly bulletins.
2) Been to a football clinic. Let alone several.
3) Sat in on local college rules study groups where things like you've been told here are discussed regularly.
4) Been graded regularly and often for years for working football games.
5) Been dinged by a supervisor for mistakes made while calling football.
6) Listened in while others got dinged by a supervisor for mistakes they made.
7) Been praised by a supervisor for doing the occasional great job.

I'll bet your quite the deal to work with in basketball. And just to make your day were you aware that this call is now officially listed as one of the best calls ever made.

NASO Press Releases

If you don't like it then I suggest you print off a copy of the press release and wipe your snotty nose with it.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by sj

zm
I'll bet your quite the deal to work with in basketball. And just to make your day were you aware that this call is now officially listed as one of the best calls ever made.

NASO Press Releases

If you don't like it then I suggest you print off a copy of the press release and wipe your snotty nose with it.

That's like the fox guarding the hen house now isn't it? Since Referee Magazine said so, it must be right. What are they going to do, come out and say Porter is a moron and that he blew it?

Now I know why NFL and college football officials are so incompetent: They were once high school football officials. (Can anyone say OU/Oregon last year? Are they going to tell us that was a great call too?)

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by zm1283

...(Can anyone say OU/Oregon last year? Are they going to tell us that was a great call too?)

REPLY: No...and if you actually read REFEREE Magazine, you would have seen their discussions about that OU-OSU call. They dissected why it was wrong, and what the contributing factors were to making that incorrect call and review. So it seems the fox did a pretty good job on that one, don't you think?

One other criticism of this crew that needs to be squashed: Many have asked why, if this foul was so blatant, didn't the line judge (L) standing right next to it, throw his flag. Simple answer is that he wasn't--and shouldn't have been--looking at it. Since the strength of the formation was to the far side (OSU had trips over there), the back judge was keying his receiver on that side. That left Porter, the field judge, keying the WR on the near side and the L keying on the TE split about two yards from the tackle. In the still photo, you can see the L looking past the WR and watching the TE-defender interaction just below the second "M" in the Miami endzone logo. Porter is out of the frame, but was obviously watching Gamble and Sharpe. Both were looking precisely where they were supposed to be looking.

The amazing thing about all of the fans who spout off about the perceived incompetence of college or professional officials is that if put into that same position themselves, they would no doubt need a clean pair of knickers after about two minutes of the first quarter...or sooner.

[JasonTX]

Originally Posted by zm1283

That's like the fox guarding the hen house now isn't it? Since Referee Magazine said so, it must be right. What are they going to do, come out and say Porter is a moron and that he blew it?

Now I know why NFL and college football officials are so incompetent: They were once high school football officials. (Can anyone say OU/Oregon last year? Are they going to tell us that was a great call too?)

If you think you could do a better job then jump right up. I'd bet a game check that you couldn't make it past the 1st Qtr. You'd be running off the field after all the abuse you'd get for the bad calls you'd make. Take the challenge. Until then, you have no voice in this issue because you are not trained in the game of football and have no clue whatsoever about the rules. You've proven that already.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by zm1283

They were once high school football officials.

If you feel you can do better, please sign up! Basketball and football seasons don't overlap much if at all and we can definitely use more officials in the ranks.

How would you feel about a football official coming into the basketball forum and making the same comments you did about basketball officials? A little respect for your fellow officials would be appreciated.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by Welpe

How would you feel about a football official coming into the basketball forum and making the same comments you did about basketball officials? A little respect for your fellow officials would be appreciated.

Well, there was a baseball guy (not me) here earlier this season. That went well....

And zm, you can tell it's PI because you can see the ball in flight and the CB holding on to the WR. You likely can't see his other hand because it's also grabbing on. Do what I do and just read what they're saying about rules on these forums. You might learn something about sports you don't work.

So now that it's been established you're a fanboy, tell us: Canes fan? Or Michigan, perhaps?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by zm1283

How can you even tell there is pass interference? Because this picture tells you there is? You can't see Sharpe's right hand, and the videos of this play don't show Gamble being contacted while the ball is in flight. So no, I won't admit I'm wrong.

We've all seen the play so we know there's contact. You say that there was no contact while the ball was in the air. Yet the photo confirms that the contact occurs while the ball is in the air.

It's just as I thought. You are man enough to admit when you're wrong. You're just a fanboy.

Go away fanboy. This site is for officials.