Hs version of jets ko play

[ajmc]

Robert, very often trying to incorporate, or mix multiple, rules into situations that they do not relate to only causes confusion and distorts the logic behind the creation of those rules. The question of when, or whether, the ball is OOB due to the actions of a kicker or a receiver has little, if not absolutely nothing, to do with an Illegal Participation situation in all but the most obscure, imaginative possibility.

Viewing any rule, from a once in a billion, perspective can sometimes be an enjoyable exercise but is far more likely to leave unnecessary confusion and doubt in the minds of many who don't fully understand the "once in a billion" perspective.

[GPC2]

Seems to me that this would be R's ball at the inbounds spot - no penalty. The ball was in the field of play - the R player was out of bounds, hence R caused the ball to be out of bounds, not K.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by GPC2

Seems to me that this would be R's ball at the inbounds spot - no penalty. The ball was in the field of play - the R player was out of bounds, hence R caused the ball to be out of bounds, not K.

That would make sense but that's not how it is defined by rule. I don't have my rule books with me but as I recall a few things come to mind. Touching preceeds possession so the ball was dead as soon as R touched it. The ball touching anything out of bounds is out of bounds and the action that caused the ball to go out of bounds is K's kick. Someone else can probably articulate this better than me.

[grantsrc]

Originally Posted by GPC2

Seems to me that this would be R's ball at the inbounds spot - no penalty. The ball was in the field of play - the R player was out of bounds, hence R caused the ball to be out of bounds, not K.

In the past, I believe we had a case book play to support this ruling. I believe the case book play was deleted and we no longer have support for ruling it this way.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by grantsrc

In the past, I believe we had a case book play to support this ruling. I believe the case book play was deleted and we no longer have support for ruling it this way.

Bingo. Both the Federation and the Redding Guide changed their interpretations of this play this year.