Slapping the Snap

[Sonofanump]

B is guilty is something, I think 5 yards for either delay or Encroching.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Sonofanump

B is guilty is something, I think 5 yards for either delay or Encroching.

You can't be serious with this answer. What did B do that was illegal?

[Sonofanump]

Originally Posted by waltjp

You can't be serious with this answer. What did B do that was illegal?

What is human reaction time? The center is the person snapping and he knows when the snap is going to occur. No way the defender could time this perfectly to beat a center who is snapping the ball.

[bigjohn]

We'll call it a draw!

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[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Sonofanump

What is human reaction time? The center is the person snapping and he knows when the snap is going to occur. No way the defender could time this perfectly to beat a center who is snapping the ball.

Maybe it's me, but I still don't see you citing a rule.

[Sonofanump]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Maybe it's me, but I still don't see you citing a rule.

If B slaps the ball during the snap, then he encroched. It's kinetics.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Sonofanump

If B slaps the ball during the snap, then he encroched. It's kinetics.

Still haven't found a rule citation, I see.

[Sonofanump]

Originally Posted by waltjp

still haven't found a rule citation, i see.

2-8.

[Welpe]

And further we go down the rabbit hole....

[Brett]

Originally Posted by Sonofanump

If B slaps the ball during the snap, then he encroched. It's kinetics.

It's kinetics???



Sure.

[Sonofanump]

Originally Posted by Brett

It's kinetics???



Sure.

You know, the physics of movement states that if the snap by A and B player move at the same speed, B would have to start his movement and therefore encroch prior to the snap if he would touch the ball prior to team A's back. Reaction time and accelration by both A & B also needs to be considered.

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[FTVMartin]

I had this earlier this year when I was working HL. I called it encroachment because he came across early. I don't think it is possible to hit the ball without coming across early.

[bigjohn]

A scrimmage down must start with a legal snap. An illegal
snap causes the ball to remain dead.


The call for snap infraction is false start. Disconcerting acts by B that cause a false start are USC according to 9-5-1d

[waltjp]

John, have you considered becoming a radio pundit? Saying something over and over doesn't make it true.

[ajmc]

It may be humanly possible for a defensive player to be so quick, or time an attempt so perfectly that he could reach a snap after it has started, without encroaching, but 999 times out of 1,000 the correct call is encroachment.

Personally, I'm not looking for that 1 super human effort, and rather than motivate any player to be that 1 in a 1,000, I consider any successful slap of a snap a foul for encroachment.