Slapping the Snap

[bigjohn]

slapping the snap causes a snap infraction, no? That is false start. It is a disconcerting action that causes A to false start so it should be USC!

[Sonofanump]

B is guilty is something, I think 5 yards for either delay or Encroching.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Sonofanump

B is guilty is something, I think 5 yards for either delay or Encroching.

You can't be serious with this answer. What did B do that was illegal?

[Sonofanump]

Originally Posted by waltjp

You can't be serious with this answer. What did B do that was illegal?

What is human reaction time? The center is the person snapping and he knows when the snap is going to occur. No way the defender could time this perfectly to beat a center who is snapping the ball.

[bigjohn]

We'll call it a draw!

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[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Sonofanump

What is human reaction time? The center is the person snapping and he knows when the snap is going to occur. No way the defender could time this perfectly to beat a center who is snapping the ball.

Maybe it's me, but I still don't see you citing a rule.

[Sonofanump]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Maybe it's me, but I still don't see you citing a rule.

If B slaps the ball during the snap, then he encroched. It's kinetics.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Sonofanump

If B slaps the ball during the snap, then he encroched. It's kinetics.

Still haven't found a rule citation, I see.

[Brett]

Originally Posted by Sonofanump

If B slaps the ball during the snap, then he encroched. It's kinetics.

It's kinetics???



Sure.

[FTVMartin]

I had this earlier this year when I was working HL. I called it encroachment because he came across early. I don't think it is possible to hit the ball without coming across early.

[bigjohn]

A scrimmage down must start with a legal snap. An illegal
snap causes the ball to remain dead.


The call for snap infraction is false start. Disconcerting acts by B that cause a false start are USC according to 9-5-1d

[waltjp]

John, have you considered becoming a radio pundit? Saying something over and over doesn't make it true.

[ajmc]

It may be humanly possible for a defensive player to be so quick, or time an attempt so perfectly that he could reach a snap after it has started, without encroaching, but 999 times out of 1,000 the correct call is encroachment.

Personally, I'm not looking for that 1 super human effort, and rather than motivate any player to be that 1 in a 1,000, I consider any successful slap of a snap a foul for encroachment.

[bigjohn]

Here is a play from Redding's NFHS Football Rules. "

Example 3-19 After the ready, all Team A players are set. As A53 snaps the ball, B72 reaches in and knocks the ball away. RULING: The umpire must decide whether the snap was illegal or B72 encroached.

It is highly unlikely the preceding example could occur without a foul. In practicality, for a defensive player to knock the ball away, either the snapper would have to hesitate after lifting the ball making the snap illegal and thus allowing the opponent enough time to touch the ball, or the Team B player would have to put his hand into the neutral zone before the snap."

[bigjohn]

Well, Walt, I was told to find rule coverage and I believe I have. Personally I think it falls under Unfair act and is not football so it is a travesty of the game.


Football plays must start with a legal snap, that is the rule, B should not be able to impede this!