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Old Mon Oct 13, 2008, 07:58pm
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KO OOB Play (LSU-FL) Video

Video of the much discussed KO OOB play from the LSU-Florida game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUHdx6KVAQA
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Old Mon Oct 13, 2008, 08:52pm
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Announcers are idiots.

Hard to tell but looks like the ball might have been possessed before the returner stepped out of bounds.
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Old Mon Oct 13, 2008, 08:52pm
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Did the left foot come down prior to the right foot. I could not tell.
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Old Tue Oct 14, 2008, 11:47am
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Good pickup as that is apparently what did happen. And if it did, this would NOT be a KO OOB as it was touched by an inbounds player before he went OOB
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2008, 01:27am
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Good pickup as that is apparently what did happen. And if it did, this would NOT be a KO OOB as it was touched by an inbounds player before he went OOB
Not according to NCAA rules.
The officials got it right.
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2008, 03:49am
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What NCAA rule are you referring to? If it is the recent AR about an airborne player possessing the ball and landing OOB it does not apply if you judge his left foot came down inbounds first
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2008, 09:09am
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What NCAA rule are you referring to? If it is the recent AR about an airborne player possessing the ball and landing OOB it does not apply if you judge his left foot came down inbounds first
That is the rule. The player was in the act of catching the ball and in doing so landed out of bounds. It is just that simple.
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2008, 10:22am
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How is he "in the act of catching" when his foot touches inbounds thereby completing the catch?
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2008, 11:06am
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How is he "in the act of catching" when his foot touches inbounds thereby completing the catch?
What does "one foot in bounds" have to do with fielding a free kick? This is not a forward pass. The officials on the field called it out of bounds and the call was upheld upon review.
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2008, 12:52pm
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What does "one foot in bounds" have to do with fielding a free kick? This is not a forward pass. The officials on the field called it out of bounds and the call was upheld upon review.
I was quoting YOU in case you missed it.

What does the call on the field have to do with our view of the video and discussion of the play?

I saw the player possess (or as you would say "catch") the kick in the field of play and then step out of bounds. How do others see this video?
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2008, 01:25pm
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That is the rule. The player was in the act of catching the ball and in doing so landed out of bounds. It is just that simple.
That rule applies to an airborne player who lands first OOB. It does not address one who lands with a left foot down in bounds before hs right foot comes down OOB.

In the act of catching, he "touched" I hope you will agree? And if he "touched" while his left foot was on the ground inbounds, even if his right foot then touched OOB, would you not agree it was touched by B before going OOB?
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2008, 03:58pm
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That rule applies to an airborne player who lands first OOB. It does not address one who lands with a left foot down in bounds before hs right foot comes down OOB.

In the act of catching, he "touched" I hope you will agree? And if he "touched" while his left foot was on the ground inbounds, even if his right foot then touched OOB, would you not agree it was touched by B before going OOB?
No, i would rule that he caught the ball out of bounds, since one foot was out of bounds, even if it did not touch in unison with his other foot. Why is this so hard to understand? The officials had no problem seeing it that way.
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It does not matter where the ball was "caught" It matters what the status of the player was when he was "touching" the ball. And if he had one foot inbounds and nothing touching out of bounds, he was INBOUNDS. And if he was INBOUNDS and TOUCHING the ball, there can be NO fould for kick OOB
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2008, 07:05pm
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It does not matter where the ball was "caught" It matters what the status of the player was when he was "touching" the ball. And if he had one foot inbounds and nothing touching out of bounds, he was INBOUNDS. And if he was INBOUNDS and TOUCHING the ball, there can be NO fould for kick OOB
Seems yours is a minority opinion.
In light of what actually happened I wonder how you will explain it if you call it that way.

My guess is that replay will change it.
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2008, 07:13pm
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Do you even know the NCAA rules?
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