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TXMike Mon Oct 13, 2008 07:58pm

KO OOB Play (LSU-FL) Video
 
Video of the much discussed KO OOB play from the LSU-Florida game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUHdx6KVAQA

waltjp Mon Oct 13, 2008 08:52pm

News Flash
 
Announcers are idiots.

Hard to tell but looks like the ball might have been possessed before the returner stepped out of bounds.

Sonofanump Mon Oct 13, 2008 08:52pm

Did the left foot come down prior to the right foot. I could not tell.

TXMike Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:47am

Good pickup as that is apparently what did happen. And if it did, this would NOT be a KO OOB as it was touched by an inbounds player before he went OOB

jimpiano Wed Oct 15, 2008 01:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXMike (Post 543066)
Good pickup as that is apparently what did happen. And if it did, this would NOT be a KO OOB as it was touched by an inbounds player before he went OOB

Not according to NCAA rules.
The officials got it right.

TXMike Wed Oct 15, 2008 03:49am

What NCAA rule are you referring to? If it is the recent AR about an airborne player possessing the ball and landing OOB it does not apply if you judge his left foot came down inbounds first

jimpiano Wed Oct 15, 2008 09:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXMike (Post 543192)
What NCAA rule are you referring to? If it is the recent AR about an airborne player possessing the ball and landing OOB it does not apply if you judge his left foot came down inbounds first

That is the rule. The player was in the act of catching the ball and in doing so landed out of bounds. It is just that simple.

parepat Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:22am

How is he "in the act of catching" when his foot touches inbounds thereby completing the catch?

jimpiano Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by parepat (Post 543245)
How is he "in the act of catching" when his foot touches inbounds thereby completing the catch?

What does "one foot in bounds" have to do with fielding a free kick? This is not a forward pass. The officials on the field called it out of bounds and the call was upheld upon review.

parepat Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimpiano (Post 543253)
What does "one foot in bounds" have to do with fielding a free kick? This is not a forward pass. The officials on the field called it out of bounds and the call was upheld upon review.

I was quoting YOU in case you missed it.

What does the call on the field have to do with our view of the video and discussion of the play?

I saw the player possess (or as you would say "catch") the kick in the field of play and then step out of bounds. How do others see this video?

TXMike Wed Oct 15, 2008 01:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimpiano (Post 543223)
That is the rule. The player was in the act of catching the ball and in doing so landed out of bounds. It is just that simple.

That rule applies to an airborne player who lands first OOB. It does not address one who lands with a left foot down in bounds before hs right foot comes down OOB.

In the act of catching, he "touched" I hope you will agree? And if he "touched" while his left foot was on the ground inbounds, even if his right foot then touched OOB, would you not agree it was touched by B before going OOB?

jimpiano Wed Oct 15, 2008 03:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXMike (Post 543319)
That rule applies to an airborne player who lands first OOB. It does not address one who lands with a left foot down in bounds before hs right foot comes down OOB.

In the act of catching, he "touched" I hope you will agree? And if he "touched" while his left foot was on the ground inbounds, even if his right foot then touched OOB, would you not agree it was touched by B before going OOB?

No, i would rule that he caught the ball out of bounds, since one foot was out of bounds, even if it did not touch in unison with his other foot. Why is this so hard to understand? The officials had no problem seeing it that way.

TXMike Wed Oct 15, 2008 06:27pm

It does not matter where the ball was "caught" It matters what the status of the player was when he was "touching" the ball. And if he had one foot inbounds and nothing touching out of bounds, he was INBOUNDS. And if he was INBOUNDS and TOUCHING the ball, there can be NO fould for kick OOB

jimpiano Wed Oct 15, 2008 07:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXMike (Post 543390)
It does not matter where the ball was "caught" It matters what the status of the player was when he was "touching" the ball. And if he had one foot inbounds and nothing touching out of bounds, he was INBOUNDS. And if he was INBOUNDS and TOUCHING the ball, there can be NO fould for kick OOB

Seems yours is a minority opinion.
In light of what actually happened I wonder how you will explain it if you call it that way.

My guess is that replay will change it.

TXMike Wed Oct 15, 2008 07:13pm

Do you even know the NCAA rules?


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